Received: from mail-fa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]:45925) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SA4g3-00036z-0t; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:25:07 -0700 Received: by fabs1 with SMTP id s1sf321343fab.16 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:24:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=lN5WeAmmnE+7iiNjZYTcdMQ55yQSloY0zlgEVUs/Xak=; b=WLtO4npMSYEGxGzThqYpyC4TQ+J9vZCmbvvk06i6RfWZghsnwWo5/rxGEM4KF90sBC YmoncFQCF9IIT0OFyC9jvVElWl2XLYOMHSHqqtpFuSnIWxdDh4DkqbAXaOakScdHb9WM X8uNm7+twUS9ylHG0XeB44WuqS38QsG3vFJKI= Received: by 10.216.135.90 with SMTP id t68mr84935wei.72.1332271489909; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:24:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.81.69 with SMTP id l47ls399960wee.3.gmail; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.134.5 with SMTP id r5mr71799wei.6.1332271488161; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.134.5 with SMTP id r5mr71798wei.6.1332271488146; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id el7si1332987wid.2.2012.03.20.12.24.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.182 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.182; Received: by mail-wi0-f182.google.com with SMTP id hr14so522539wib.17 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:24:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.139.140 with SMTP id c12mr556606wej.43.1332271487907; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.144.212 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:24:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <10bc6439-7981-4ed3-a847-2f93dac0ea99@k6g2000vbz.googlegroups.com> References: <6eda65e1-8635-4aae-ae3c-3ae17d3f1310@g16g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> <10bc6439-7981-4ed3-a847-2f93dac0ea99@k6g2000vbz.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:24:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Specific terminology - the case of philosophy terminology From: Escape Landsome To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: escaaape@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.182 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=escaaape@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / The difficulty with Spinoza is that he coins most of his syllogisms from the fact he gives very specific meaning to the terms he uses (e.g. God, which is the "causa sui", or the one thing that needs nothing else than its "essence" to exist). Well, so the conclusion is * either the terms are "of course" those whith the associated meanings, --- and then all the book is a big (not even necessarily convincing) tautology * or the terms don't come so handy, and you take for granted God (for instance) can refer to a great number of different things, but then --- how to explain it is SOME PARTICULAR meaning that is intended in Spinoza's works ? Perhaps saying "lo cevni la spinozas" would suffice ?? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.