Received: from mail-wi0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]:54545) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SAr34-0000OQ-90; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:04:07 -0700 Received: by wibhq12 with SMTP id hq12sf973834wib.16 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:03:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=sMvEWJTtU7jMQ78rNEBshZYucCUWM3l6GEESJgdBwyo=; b=ruHlYUGF+2s1X4PGzEnO7aPmWsfbBXEjgzqWjx7za4tAqmOJtMJE0RPyxSLSYA2YtQ my8P7LI/r1ToCY+FyICrwYErUegwsrbRFpvaGt5wYpq2gS8RfTguiKw3Z5BflN6ggN4Z EIawPkCcR+KWCspzS6IS8/Xt/ViH9PBPgn3Rc= Received: by 10.216.135.72 with SMTP id t50mr429877wei.34.1332457426524; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:03:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.104.5 with SMTP id ga5ls1709340wib.0.canary; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.91.233 with SMTP id ch9mr134138wib.3.1332457425348; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.91.233 with SMTP id ch9mr134137wib.3.1332457425335; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-f176.google.com (mail-we0-f176.google.com [74.125.82.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o8si1888992wic.0.2012.03.22.16.03.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of cntrational@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.176; Received: by werc1 with SMTP id c1so3122538wer.35 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.101.230 with SMTP id fj6mr1400322wib.13.1332457425212; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:03:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.95.136 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:03:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201203212350.09722.phma@phma.optus.nu> <201203221524.01347.phma@phma.optus.nu> From: Sid Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 04:33:04 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Translating preposition To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: cntrational@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of cntrational@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=cntrational@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / I dunno; it's just kinda weird to use the word to describe non-Lojban stuff. I do think that sumtcita are like adpositions, just think it's better to make a new word for the general language concept. On 23 March 2012 04:21, MorphemeAddict wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Sid wrote: >> >> "sumtcita" is used to refer to a Lojban concept, and not really the >> concept of adpositions. I think it would be better to create a new >> word for the concept instead. >> > What is the difference between the "Lojban concept" and "the concept of > adpositions"? > > stevo > >> >> mi'e cntr >> >> On 23 March 2012 00:54, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> > On Thursday, March 22, 2012 01:46:20 Sid wrote: >> >> By the 'Lojban word for "preposition"', I mean a Lojban word that >> >> refers to the linguistic concept of "preposition", not the rough >> >> Lojban equivalent. >> > >> > I see no difference (other than placement, which can be specified with >> > "lidne >> > sumtcita", "selyli'e sumtcita", etc.). Please explain. >> > >> > Pierre >> > -- >> > I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.