Received: from mail-we0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]:54291) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SDHuo-0002mY-3d; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:09:41 -0700 Received: by wera1 with SMTP id a1sf983957wer.16 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:09:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=Couh4ZJGaMNzYMIEl7T028J+BwjCHleaL2OwISP8Quw=; b=HdroX9TscXcMoEtX7eb/XIqtIIMPy2wolcA5zJ60xLfMDvH750BtKornE2JZbC1EJD zOEZoG/UklGsDBVdgChwAlMXNoO7L5XP7T93jynjE6+D5NMm3zBsMySk3locucob8jhT 3xAoLs1udEIRgaUzyvUBo5tT/h0Pp/G0mmkP8= Received: by 10.180.103.130 with SMTP id fw2mr612844wib.4.1333037357630; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:09:17 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.100.40 with SMTP id ev8ls2426716wib.3.canary; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:09:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.92.196 with SMTP id co4mr621218wib.2.1333037356543; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:09:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.29.19 with SMTP id h19mswea; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.90.198 with SMTP id by6mr1575439wib.4.1332778948977; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.90.198 with SMTP id by6mr1575438wib.4.1332778948952; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dd17822.kasserver.com (dd17822.kasserver.com. [85.13.138.119]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id w8si8271566wiv.3.2012.03.26.09.22.28; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) client-ip=85.13.138.119; Received: from samsa (brln-4d0ce8cd.pool.mediaWays.net [77.12.232.205]) by dd17822.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4D89586011B for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:22:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:22:27 +0200 From: v4hn To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Have you guys heard of eSpeak? Message-ID: <20120326162227.GD3963@samsa> References: <29003828.512.1332467486180.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbhy1> <07c2babe-d916-4a15-973a-33a50219e60e@k6g2000vbz.googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yudcn1FV7Hsu/q59" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <07c2babe-d916-4a15-973a-33a50219e60e@k6g2000vbz.googlegroups.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: me@v4hn.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) smtp.mail=me@v4hn.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --yudcn1FV7Hsu/q59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable coi do On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 01:00:38PM -0700, =C3=81lvaro Vallejo wrote: > Hi, Rex, >=20 > Back to your question on eSpeak (instead of derived chat): I tried it > some time ago, did a few trials and desisted. However, if you "patch" > your Lojban text to accomodate eSpeak rules to existing language > engines, you can get a decent Lojban pronunciation, but not perfect. > Try the following: > - Select a eSpeak language engine (the best should be Italian or > Spanish probably German or Greek too, because of the vowels, but the > problem with greek could be the alphabet, I can't remember). I'm quite sure, the most decent language engine is 'jbo' - Lojban .u'i That's what Rex realized. mu'o mi'e la .van. --yudcn1FV7Hsu/q59 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk9wl8MACgkQMBKLZs4+wjxO9QCfV1YCwyYl2FzwLcPlmAsbG7ew +swAoIM3X/0CLivjqP+ZsPoPbBS++wvx =EPDQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yudcn1FV7Hsu/q59--