Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]:32849) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SExi2-0006TZ-Nr; Mon, 02 Apr 2012 23:59:19 -0700 Received: by yenm3 with SMTP id m3sf3669099yen.16 for ; Mon, 02 Apr 2012 23:59:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=wcGHoH3HjVLq4rLbAb2zrGplb5tFUE7+rpH15gttHdc=; b=3dKatNcUVN0uTbk8wuvQ7oYhHoh4EqhJRsGwqTMMnFXBxbQPEW9Vg29z/XAK2S8+Yr PbCb1YGbzF9TkVhpIO0nhSGuCciDIgvswGqJ10V0kH19G3s4cvlEJ+baZsdKkn78xPCV cb2TEYMNsSRaA8uMfWY3fPk8DKbUp1ihLZhps= Received: by 10.236.187.3 with SMTP id x3mr965643yhm.18.1333436340273; Mon, 02 Apr 2012 23:59:00 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.73.226 with SMTP id v62ls7415140yhd.7.gmail; Mon, 02 Apr 2012 23:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.190.134 with SMTP id e6mr966630yhn.1.1333436337108; Mon, 02 Apr 2012 23:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 23:58:56 -0700 (PDT) From: gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <15069733.892.1333436336443.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yncy1> In-Reply-To: <6700499.1894.1333408401945.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjx8> References: <16468031.1003.1333378531585.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbjk8> <6700499.1894.1333408401945.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjx8> Subject: [lojban] Re: No language has separate words for odors. Let's create them. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_891_31856344.1333436336442" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_891_31856344.1333436336442 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It's not. It's only our practice that merges our senses. One of the discussions in Conlangery Podcast (Episode 6) mentioned that only five languages in the world have separate root words for odors. I strongly against lujvo. It's non-neutral, not fair and non-scientific. Then why not replace {titla} with {ka sakta} ? If so few languages have separate words it doesn't mean that Lojban should follow it. Lojban is for expanding our views on the world. So I suggest either zi'evla or even gismu ! As for the sounding we can take them from those five languages cuz most natlangs as I said just use descriptive words (in English they are Musky, Putrid,Pungent,Camphoraceous, Ethereal,Floral, Pepperminty). On Tuesday, April 3, 2012 3:13:21 AM UTC+4, la .lindar. wrote: > > ...or because smell is intrinsically linked with taste we could just use > those words? Do we perceive smells the same way we perceive tastes? Does > something ever smell sweet or sour? Under what category is the taste of > alcohol (whiskey, for example)? Under what smell category? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/e1vHrx-7xNoJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_891_31856344.1333436336442 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's not. It's only our practice that merges our senses.
One of the dis= cussions in Conlangery Podcast (Episode 6) mentioned that only five languag= es in the world have separate root words for odors.

I strongly against lujvo. It's non-neutral, not fair and non-scientific.<= /div>
Then why not replace {titla} with {ka sakta} ?

If so few languages have separate words it doesn't mean that Lojban = should follow it.
Lojban is for expanding our views on the world.=

So I suggest either zi'evla or even gismu !
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As for the sounding  we can take them from those five languages c= uz most natlangs as I said just use descriptive words (in English they are&= nbsp;Musky, Putrid,Pungent,Camphoraceous, Ethereal,Floral, P= epperminty).


On Tuesday, April 3, 2012 3:13:21 AM UTC+4, = la .lindar. wrote:
...or becaus= e smell is intrinsically linked with taste we could just use those words?&n= bsp;Do we perceive smells the same way we perceive tastes? Does something e= ver smell sweet or sour? Under what category is the taste of alcohol (whisk= ey, for example)? Under what smell category?

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