Received: from mail-vb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:62754) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SExlC-0006Ve-O0; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 00:02:36 -0700 Received: by vbbfd1 with SMTP id fd1sf3681528vbb.16 for ; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 00:02:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=6hQGI/y7sV3r0pinQC3WuDI++/DIE3FR79DwTT4ihTk=; b=5WlbTI7hUkcosW5dnLPqtJaQRJaL9uaR4kVo1koNVGoMSbadOwi+ukDW2f29fNGl3n vSIOIGEJyFjVGPmkyWLjsqBQEk6cXMFDlMsWKaAbSsIzzLYloCEEYo8lfs4yXvzXk1Uu i3clCDaAawz23Txu59+wVjDwBSTOoBu+jXkZM= Received: by 10.236.80.68 with SMTP id j44mr732699yhe.7.1333436536289; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 00:02:16 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.193.8 with SMTP id j8ls8802907yhn.9.gmail; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 00:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.80.68 with SMTP id j44mr732698yhe.7.1333436535447; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 00:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 00:02:12 -0700 (PDT) From: gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <4033225.1547.1333436532748.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynlp3> In-Reply-To: References: <16468031.1003.1333378531585.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbjk8> <6700499.1894.1333408401945.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjx8> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: No language has separate words for odors. Let's create them. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1546_24464808.1333436532747" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_1546_24464808.1333436532747 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tuesday, April 3, 2012 6:08:28 AM UTC+4, guskant wrote: > > At least in Chinese and in Japanese, there are some categories of > smell. The signified things do not exactly match those of English > words odor, smell, fragrance, scent, stench etc. > > In Chinese, there are following categories: > 香(xiang1): good smell > 臭(chou4): bad smell > 芬(fen1): strong good smell, originally of sprouting herbs, not > necessarily edible. > 芳(fang1): strong good smell, originally of herbs and flowers, not > necessarily edible. > > In Japanese, in addition to the Chinese categories above, there are > expressions specific to smell: > つん (tsun): Sharp smell. Used for expressing wasabi, strong perfume, > ammonia, alcohol and any other stimulant smell. > ぷん (pun): Maximally strong smell, not necessarily stimulant. > > However, I don't think we need separate words of Lojban for categories > of smell. An odor is a combination of various volatile chemical > materials. > > It's not. There are elementary odors just like we have elementary tastes. I mentioned them. > If you need to express precisely an odor, you should > perform chemical analysis of the contents of the odor. Lojbanize the > result, and you will get an expression to the odor. > > mu'o > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/4Ja0a4Mff_AJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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