Received: from mail-ey0-f189.google.com ([209.85.215.189]:56115) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SFPzv-0003sV-Bf; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 06:11:41 -0700 Received: by eaan10 with SMTP id n10sf205659eaa.16 for ; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 06:11:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=caMG4zk1F6cNX+/3k3MS5JhHT1kiI3j0xOugPlm5q2Y=; b=oghsNX/yIOhJUJo/0+1wReni48BpP+fzDYXF06Bu02UunhsgAk6NedP62+9IU2P+0W bwP6JE1MWfKGIP+OQt7OwrHMtN1N2ctCCO4yJDjROXNPX6U5mph3G8ycJRDtFvKe5mig s4YIizxd5kHKQTQjzISt8QC0lVUcanIAMnn1g= Received: by 10.204.129.13 with SMTP id m13mr863033bks.10.1333545079386; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 06:11:19 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.205.134.137 with SMTP id ic9ls208102bkc.6.gmail; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 06:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.13.69 with SMTP id b5mr1439597bka.4.1333545078069; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 06:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.13.69 with SMTP id b5mr1439596bka.4.1333545078038; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 06:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8si722779bka.1.2012.04.04.06.11.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 04 Apr 2012 06:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.53; Received: by mail-bk0-f53.google.com with SMTP id j4so276561bkw.40 for ; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 06:11:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.157.12 with SMTP id z12mr7140400bkw.135.1333545077897; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 06:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.63.200 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 06:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 09:11:17 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] LA SUMTI BRIVLA From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747af8ea8fab804bcda28f3 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --00151747af8ea8fab804bcda28f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just checking with people who understand the grammar to make sure that the following is correct: You are allowed to interpose a sumti between the la and name for those cases where the name is a brivla, such as "la mi cribe cu gerku" -> "la cribe pe mi cu gerku" (My Bear is a dog), or "la ba'u lo ponse be lo gerku kuku pinxe be lo djacu cu taske za'ure'u ku .oi" (The dog owner's "Water-Drinker" is thirsty again *sigh* ) but not where the name is a cmevla, *la mi crib. cu gerku (*My Shreeb is a dog) Would I have that right? (The permissibility surprised me. I can readily see how the the latter can't be allowed, because it would agglutinate into "la micrib. cu gerku", and how the first can't be ambiguous, but I was surprised to see it was allowed anyhow, simply because of symmetry reasons) --gejyspa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --00151747af8ea8fab804bcda28f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=A0 Just checking with people who understand the grammar t= o make sure that the following is correct:

You are allow= ed to interpose a sumti between the la and name for those cases where the n= ame is a brivla, such as "la mi cribe cu gerku" -> "la cr= ibe pe mi cu gerku" (My Bear is a dog), or "la ba'u lo ponse = be =A0lo gerku kuku pinxe be lo djacu cu taske za'ure'u ku .oi"= ; (The dog owner's =A0"Water-Drinker" is thirsty again *sigh*= ) =A0but not where the name is a cmevla, *la mi crib. cu gerku (*My Shreeb= is a dog)

=A0 Would I have that right? =A0(The permissibility sur= prised me. =A0I can readily see how the the latter can't be allowed, be= cause it would agglutinate into "la micrib. cu gerku", and how th= e first can't be ambiguous, but I was surprised to see it was allowed a= nyhow, simply because of symmetry reasons)

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa

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