Received: from mail-vb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:46070) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SGQRU-000630-S4; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:52:21 -0700 Received: by vbbfd1 with SMTP id fd1sf2618054vbb.16 for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:52:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=odjJGnHzOSAWtMS5sx4iVqwBV5ZLGd8VOpFIyXZYOSM=; b=EUJ2He5kB1sxG4Lo42XsK9NOfGgofhHIq6WLV+kco9p88kY9ESh5htMvfPuq9kbXkI ESzv3x3Uoa++hAX0S3uC4ZvQI8OQjk7kXY+eNwvdcGd/UhA0UYNcgyVbEhJcvUmuMbcr I9qAZR0zpWmn5dq50PnikhmfOvf34NDpaQq6o= Received: by 10.50.154.130 with SMTP id vo2mr170502igb.1.1333785118184; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:51:58 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.80.134 with SMTP id t6ls2180168ibk.8.gmail; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.163.97 with SMTP id yh1mr419510igb.3.1333785117449; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.163.97 with SMTP id yh1mr419509igb.3.1333785117441; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iy0-f180.google.com (mail-iy0-f180.google.com [209.85.210.180]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ko2si2977762igc.2.2012.04.07.00.51.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.180 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.180; Received: by iage36 with SMTP id e36so4430202iag.25 for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:51:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.34.200 with SMTP id b8mr415826igj.50.1333785117262; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.18.113 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 00:51:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 09:51:57 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] the semantics of & and * with tanru From: Escape Landsome To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: escaaape@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.180 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=escaaape@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / > Your examples are for metaphorical or mnemonic extensions of the literal > meanings. They aren't the result of a single operation. They are. Let's call "SEMANTIC IMPORT" all the semantics one word 'x' carries with itself We put in the semantic import things such as "properties", written /+property/, and other things such as "morphologic value", which we write [context --> new semantic import] Thus, Romeo = { /+male/, /+young/, /+in love with Juliet/, ... } Juliet = { /+female/, /+young/, /+in love with Romeo/, ... } bird = { /+animal/, /+a priori living entity/, /+can fly (generally)/, ... } blackbird = { /+animal/, /+bird/, /+specific cry/, ... } Well, in fact : bird = { /+animal/, /+a priori living entity/, /+can fly (generally)/, [ black * --> blackbird ],... } so that (black & bird) = { /+animal/, /+a priori living entity/, /+can fly (generally)/, [ black * --> blackbird ], /+BLACK/, ... } while (black * bird) = blackbird = { /+animal/, /+bird/, /+specific cry/, ... } as seen above -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.