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{ka broda} cannot mean "salty" etc. "ti ka silna" means "this is a property 
of being salt", not "this is salty". You could make lujvo like {silnyvu'i} 
etc. Replacing gismu by lujvo is also possible, but then I guess you want 
to use more meaningful terms for other things too, like {fetre'a} instead 
of {ninmu} and {nalma'u} instead of {verba} and {nalma'ufetre'a} instead of 
{nixli} and maybe even {cmuvla} instead of {gismu}...

mu'o mi'e ianek

On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 5:16:49 PM UTC+2, gleki wrote:
>
> I suggest optionally replacing existing gismu for tastes with more 
> meaningful terms.
>
> source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taste
>
> ?                   ka silna -salty
> titla                ka sakta - sweet
> slari               ka slami - sour
> kurki              ka cakla - bitter
>                      la'oi umami / ka rectu - umami
>                      se kurtsapi / ka mernta - minty/fresh
>                      ka tcati - dry
>                      ka grasu - fatty
>                      ka xalka - kokumi (alcohol included, so non-neutral)
>                      ??? - numbness taste
>                      ka cpina - spicy
>
> On Wednesday, April 4, 2012 7:25:31 PM UTC+4, gleki wrote:
>>
>> Umami is considered as one of five tastes now. To be fair it deserves 
>> gismu, but I'll be humble. Fu'ivla will be fine for me.
>> It's called umami (at least in English, Spanish and Russian)
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami 
>>
>> Also taste <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taste>has such features as 
>> chemesthesis <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemesthesis> which includes 
>> menthol taste and piquancy.
>>
>> What are your suggestions?
>>
>

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{ka broda} cannot mean "salty" etc. "ti ka silna" means "this is a property=
 of being salt", not "this is salty". You could make lujvo like {silnyvu'i}=
 etc. Replacing gismu by lujvo is also possible, but then I guess you want =
to use more meaningful terms for other things too, like {fetre'a} instead o=
f {ninmu} and {nalma'u} instead of {verba} and {nalma'ufetre'a} instead of =
{nixli} and maybe even {cmuvla} instead of {gismu}...<div><br></div><div>mu=
'o mi'e ianek<br><br><div>On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 5:16:49 PM UTC+2, gl=
eki wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left:=
 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">I suggest optionally=
 replacing existing gismu for tastes with more meaningful terms.<div><br></=
div><div><div>source:<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taste" target=
=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.<wbr>org/wiki/Taste</a></div><div><br></div=
><div>? &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ka s=
ilna -salty</div><div>titla &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp;ka sakta - sweet<br></div><div>slari &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ka slami - sour</div><div>kurki &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ka cakla - bitter</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;la'oi umami / ka rectu=
 - umami</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;se kurtsapi / ka mernta - minty/fresh</div><div>&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ka tca=
ti - dry</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ka grasu - fatty</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ka xalka - kokumi (alcohol =
included, so non-neutral)</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;??? - numbness taste</div><div>&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ka cpi=
na - spicy</div><br>On Wednesday, April 4, 2012 7:25:31 PM UTC+4, gleki wro=
te:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Umami is considered as one =
of five tastes now. To be fair it deserves gismu, but I'll be humble. Fu'iv=
la will be fine for me.</div><div>It's called umami (at least in English, S=
panish and Russian)</div><div><br></div><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/=
wiki/Umami" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>Umami</a>&n=
bsp;<br><div><br></div><div>Also <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ta=
ste" target=3D"_blank">taste </a>has such features as <a href=3D"http://en.=
wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemesthesis" target=3D"_blank">chemesthesis</a>&nbsp;wh=
ich includes menthol taste and piquancy.</div><div><br></div><div>What are =
your suggestions?</div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div>

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