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Well, at least I humbly translated all tastes into lojban. Now we can 
develop it further into a physiology textbook vau zo'o

On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:27:21 PM UTC+4, ianek wrote:
>
> {ka broda} cannot mean "salty" etc. "ti ka silna" means "this is a 
> property of being salt", not "this is salty". You could make lujvo like 
> {silnyvu'i} etc. Replacing gismu by lujvo is also possible, but then I 
> guess you want to use more meaningful terms for other things too, like 
> {fetre'a} instead of {ninmu} and {nalma'u} instead of {verba} and 
> {nalma'ufetre'a} instead of {nixli} and maybe even {cmuvla} instead of 
> {gismu}...
>
> mu'o mi'e ianek
>
> On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 5:16:49 PM UTC+2, gleki wrote:
>>
>> I suggest optionally replacing existing gismu for tastes with more 
>> meaningful terms.
>>
>> source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taste
>>
>> ?                   ka silna -salty
>> titla                ka sakta - sweet
>> slari               ka slami - sour
>> kurki              ka cakla - bitter
>>                      la'oi umami / ka rectu - umami
>>                      se kurtsapi / ka mernta - minty/fresh
>>                      ka tcati - dry
>>                      ka grasu - fatty
>>                      ka xalka - kokumi (alcohol included, so non-neutral)
>>                      ??? - numbness taste
>>                      ka cpina - spicy
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 4, 2012 7:25:31 PM UTC+4, gleki wrote:
>>>
>>> Umami is considered as one of five tastes now. To be fair it deserves 
>>> gismu, but I'll be humble. Fu'ivla will be fine for me.
>>> It's called umami (at least in English, Spanish and Russian)
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami 
>>>
>>> Also taste <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taste>has such features as 
>>> chemesthesis <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemesthesis> which includes 
>>> menthol taste and piquancy.
>>>
>>> What are your suggestions?
>>>
>>

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Well, at least I humbly translated all tastes into lojban. Now we can devel=
op it further into a physiology textbook vau zo'o<br><br>On Wednesday, Apri=
l 18, 2012 11:27:21 PM UTC+4, ianek wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left: 1ex;">{ka broda} cannot mean "salty" etc. "ti ka silna" means "this i=
s a property of being salt", not "this is salty". You could make lujvo like=
 {silnyvu'i} etc. Replacing gismu by lujvo is also possible, but then I gue=
ss you want to use more meaningful terms for other things too, like {fetre'=
a} instead of {ninmu} and {nalma'u} instead of {verba} and {nalma'ufetre'a}=
 instead of {nixli} and maybe even {cmuvla} instead of {gismu}...<div><br><=
/div><div>mu'o mi'e ianek<br><br><div>On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 5:16:49 =
PM UTC+2, gleki wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;m=
argin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I suggest opt=
ionally replacing existing gismu for tastes with more meaningful terms.<div=
><br></div><div><div>source:<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taste" =
target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.<wbr>org/wiki/Taste</a></div><div><br=
></div><div>? &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; ka silna -salty</div><div>titla &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp;ka sakta - sweet<br></div><div>slari &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ka slami - sour</div><div>kurki &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ka cakla - bitter</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;la'oi umami / ka=
 rectu - umami</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;se kurtsapi / ka mernta - minty/fresh</div><div>&=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=
ka tcati - dry</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ka grasu - fatty</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ka xalka - kokumi (al=
cohol included, so non-neutral)</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;??? - numbness taste</div><div>&=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=
ka cpina - spicy</div><br>On Wednesday, April 4, 2012 7:25:31 PM UTC+4, gle=
ki wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Umami is considered a=
s one of five tastes now. To be fair it deserves gismu, but I'll be humble.=
 Fu'ivla will be fine for me.</div><div>It's called umami (at least in Engl=
ish, Spanish and Russian)</div><div><br></div><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedi=
a.org/wiki/Umami" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>Umami=
</a>&nbsp;<br><div><br></div><div>Also <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w=
iki/Taste" target=3D"_blank">taste </a>has such features as <a href=3D"http=
://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemesthesis" target=3D"_blank">chemesthesis</a>&n=
bsp;which includes menthol taste and piquancy.</div><div><br></div><div>Wha=
t are your suggestions?</div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></=
blockquote>

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