"This taste like of a salt"?

On = Thursday, April 19, 2012 6:55:37 AM UTC+4, tsani wrote:

Exactly. [ka broda] really doesn't have that much = to do with "-ness" at all, by itself. What [ka broda] means exactly, really= depends on the selbri relating it.
[xy. silnyselvu'i] -> [xy. silna= se vrusi] -> [xy. se vrusi lo ka silna] -> [lo ka silna cu vrusi xy.= ] "X tastes salty/like salt."

From what I gather about [ka] and the way it's used, it makes a second= ary claim. In this case, the secondary claim is that [xy] *is* a silna1, in= a way. In particular, it's silna1 such that it *tastes* like silna1 tastes= , i.e. salty.

Making up gismu isn't done lightly, and making up zi'ev= la/fu'ivla for things that have short lujvo equivalents is a "waste" (hardl= y, considering zi'evla-space is unlimited) of zi'evla-space.

I don't think there is any need of creating gismu/z= i'evla/lujvo until scientists determine the true natural system of tastes.&= nbsp;

All in all, [broda se vrusi] produces a [x1 tastes like= <lo broda>] type of selbri; I'd say that's the best solution, when s= uch a broda exists. Otherwise, we have to resort to fu'ivla.

mu'o mi'e la tsani

On= 18 April 2012 15:27, ianek <janek37@gmail.com> wrote:
{ka broda} cannot mean "salty" etc. "ti ka silna" means "this is a property= of being salt", not "this is salty". You could make lujvo like {silnyvu'i}= etc. Replacing gismu by lujvo is also possible, but then I guess you want = to use more meaningful terms for other things too, like {fetre'a} instead o= f {ninmu} and {nalma'u} instead of {verba} and {nalma'ufetre'a} instead of = {nixli} and maybe even {cmuvla} instead of {gismu}...

mu'o mi'e ianek

On Wednesday, April 18, 201= 2 5:16:49 PM UTC+2, gleki wrote:
I suggest optionally replacing existing gismu for tastes with more meaningf= ul terms.

source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tas= te

? &nbs= p; ka silna -salty
titla = ; ka sakta - sweet
slari &n= bsp; ka slami - sour
kurki &nb= sp; ka cakla - bitter
&n= bsp; la'oi um= ami / ka rectu - umami

= se kurtsapi / ka mernta - minty/fresh
= ka tcati - dry
=
= ka grasu - fatty
= ka xalka - kokumi (alcohol included, so n= on-neutral)

= ??? - numbness taste
&nb= sp; ka cpina - spicy

On Wednesda= y, April 4, 2012 7:25:31 PM UTC+4, gleki wrote:

Umami is considered as one of five tastes now. To be fair it deserves = gismu, but I'll be humble. Fu'ivla will be fine for me.
It's call= ed umami (at least in English, Spanish and Russian)

= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami

=
Also = taste has such features as chemesthesis which includes menthol ta= ste and piquancy.

What are your suggestions?

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