Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]:45835) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SMqs7-00051a-Dz; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:18:20 -0700 Received: by yenm3 with SMTP id m3sf1296475yen.16 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:18:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=7xc+fgPFzNJdUDC5omSkiWHJt+ah05RhetQdY3X4uSw=; b=uh6apZ9+3u18CLQGBzLyy/zIJ9VSeLI7BUE02rKVkzwq5EBRr/UzW6SMxaou6CxVxm gquwMlt29L0kUfbqYzcy4T3VagEj4hF+tOrAZFydSWd0A2ZYXVAAh/KLBaWiffU9/Bvc y8jzeAYnJv9bJwJYsrD8+DdElsxCOXJhDpU4w= Received: by 10.52.23.211 with SMTP id o19mr12569vdf.6.1335316693004; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:18:13 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.67.103 with SMTP id m7ls4721062vdt.3.gmail; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.23.226 with SMTP id p2mr13402vdf.2.1335316692296; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:18:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "la .lindar." To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <17809463.979.1335316691327.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbmi19> In-Reply-To: <20120425011536.GP24715@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20120418203025.GV24715@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20120424182759.GN24715@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <16768295.1489.1335316403850.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbdx11> <20120425011536.GP24715@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Subject: Re: {zdile} is confusingly glossed (was Re: [lojban] Baby word: silly) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: lindarthebard@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lindarthebard@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lindarthebard@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_978_9971359.1335316691326" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_978_9971359.1335316691326 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > That's subtle, though. {mi nitcu co klama le zarci mu'i lo nu mi > djica lo ladru} vs. {mi bilga co klama le zarci mu'i lo nu le mamta > cu cpedu}, OSLT. > > -Robin > Explain, Oh Grand Chief Lojbanistan. I don't quite see the difference. I interpret as "have need of" vs. "am required to" where {nitcu} has some kind of implicit raising. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/rDkwIX_dWEgJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_978_9971359.1335316691326 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That's subtle, though. &nbs= p;{mi nitcu co klama le zarci mu'i lo nu mi
djica lo ladru} vs. {mi bilg= a co klama le zarci mu'i lo nu le mamta
cu cpedu}, OSLT.

-Robin

Explain, Oh Grand Chief Lojbanistan. I don't quite see t= he difference. I interpret as "have need of" vs. "am required to" where {ni= tcu} has some kind of implicit raising. 

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