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On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 06:18:11PM -0700, la .lindar. wrote:
> 
> >
> > That's subtle, though.  {mi nitcu co klama le zarci mu'i lo nu mi
> > djica lo ladru} vs. {mi bilga co klama le zarci mu'i lo nu le mamta
> > cu cpedu}, OSLT.
> >
> Explain, Oh Grand Chief Lojbanistan. I don't quite see the
> difference. I interpret as "have need of" vs. "am required to"

That's all I had in mind, yes; note the x3 of nitcu.  In fact,
they're very nearly synonyms; the only difference is that {bilga}
has an explicit agreement involved.

> where {nitcu} has some kind of implicit raising. 

Enh, I just used the co trick; {mi nitcu lo nu klama le zarci} ~=
{mi nitcu co klama le zarci}, if you squint.

-Robin

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