Received: from mail-ob0-f189.google.com ([209.85.214.189]:45910) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SN9Iy-0006Kr-6Z; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:59:24 -0700 Received: by obbta14 with SMTP id ta14sf446421obb.16 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:59:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=JYvVyX9iqSZh/H820tJ3LnnGAgrgpy7xG0bk2Jaes78=; b=rf1hUk7qCX/oJKBcHkzw82R2qiqp8/Dv64cC63Ym0G3VRK7kVXRZ3001uXOj6QPt61 hHSaEMKuNrhBZ/DCzapCGBDOmxAX0MBJhSbDd1/HrFzVen16b4GALGKwa0dAloi9nysL wZHbndO0GIxcxLRDArHW80h9NXopRCn8yaWwY= Received: by 10.50.140.37 with SMTP id rd5mr5178870igb.0.1335387549557; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:59:09 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.243.163 with SMTP id wz3ls1264679pbc.3.gmail; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.125.233 with SMTP id mt9mr3812142pbb.5.1335387548973; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.125.233 with SMTP id mt9mr3812141pbb.5.1335387548960; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pz0-f50.google.com (mail-pz0-f50.google.com [209.85.210.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id sg8si1577123pbc.0.2012.04.25.13.59.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of craigbdaniel@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.50; Received: by mail-pz0-f50.google.com with SMTP id h32so634284dak.9 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:59:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.202.167 with SMTP id kj7mr10326309pbc.9.1335387548692; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.130.3 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:59:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:59:08 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] me'ispe was Rafybri From: Craig Daniel To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: craigbdaniel@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of craigbdaniel@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=craigbdaniel@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > It is broken. "brother-in-law" != me'ispe. Saying it does is broken. > > Add you said yourself, "brother-in-law" == me'ispe jonai spebu'a. > > They are not equivalent, therefore, the definition is broken. > A keyword is not a definition. Lots of Lojban words have perfectly functional definitions and terrible choices of keyword; I'd definitely put me'ispe in that category, since it's quite clear from the definition what it means and it is not synonymous with "brother-in-law." -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.