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The term "brother-in-law" is in the definition. It is not just a bad
keyword.

Unfortunately, like so many words, the only existing definition of the word
is in English.

Obviously a Lojban definition would not have any such problems.

to pu benji ti fo lo mi me la.android. samcku toi

mu'o mi'e.aionys.
On Apr 25, 2012 2:59 PM, "Craig Daniel" <craigbdaniel@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It is broken. "brother-in-law" != me'ispe. Saying it does is broken.
> >
> > Add you said yourself, "brother-in-law" == me'ispe jonai spebu'a.
> >
> > They are not equivalent, therefore, the definition is broken.
> >
>
> A keyword is not a definition. Lots of Lojban words have perfectly
> functional definitions and terrible choices of keyword; I'd definitely
> put me'ispe in that category, since it's quite clear from the
> definition what it means and it is not synonymous with
> "brother-in-law."
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<p>The term &quot;brother-in-law&quot; is in the definition. It is not just=
 a bad keyword.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, like so many words, the only existing definition of the w=
ord is in English.</p>
<p>Obviously a Lojban definition would not have any such problems.</p>
<p>to pu benji ti fo lo mi me la.android. samcku toi</p>
<p>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e.aionys.</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Apr 25, 2012 2:59 PM, &quot;Craig Daniel&quot=
; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:craigbdaniel@gmail.com">craigbdaniel@gmail.com</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Jonathan Jones &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyeon=
us@gmail.com">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; It is broken. &quot;brother-in-law&quot; !=3D me&#39;ispe. Saying it d=
oes is broken.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Add you said yourself, &quot;brother-in-law&quot; =3D=3D me&#39;ispe j=
onai spebu&#39;a.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; They are not equivalent, therefore, the definition is broken.<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
A keyword is not a definition. Lots of Lojban words have perfectly<br>
functional definitions and terrible choices of keyword; I&#39;d definitely<=
br>
put me&#39;ispe in that category, since it&#39;s quite clear from the<br>
definition what it means and it is not synonymous with<br>
&quot;brother-in-law.&quot;<br>
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