Received: from mail-pb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]:53618) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SNoTS-0003vY-Hf; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:57:02 -0700 Received: by pbcwz17 with SMTP id wz17sf1044113pbc.16 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:56:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Aw0lfHdjC+27WmAggz5fXnOqaswwqkVlbBeTAbT5BJA=; b=taPwYmPH6RJsUN/X3iWCoVoFFmtN4tTKX7kL2Ag4QDJQ9eY4XVNudUlA+4MuY+73CM 2Nt1J4j1anQeE26hE/FK6vpH0eahBuE1LFO/uBztfgdTgj8Jbr5snAnJKEp3EiouOIqu MiCyZSb2Sp0o1dW6AE31EWk91B2MiZqikO7S0= Received: by 10.68.218.10 with SMTP id pc10mr193891pbc.8.1335545804499; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:56:44 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.243.163 with SMTP id wz3ls5296493pbc.3.gmail; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.232.42 with SMTP id tl10mr9639099pbc.7.1335545799954; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.232.42 with SMTP id tl10mr9639098pbc.7.1335545799943; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f45.google.com (mail-pb0-f45.google.com [209.85.160.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id sg8si6093112pbc.0.2012.04.27.09.56.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of craigbdaniel@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.45; Received: by mail-pb0-f45.google.com with SMTP id ro12so345498pbb.32 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:56:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.230.40 with SMTP id sv8mr18593353pbc.124.1335545799873; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.25.194 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:56:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20120418203025.GV24715@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20120424182759.GN24715@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <16768295.1489.1335316403850.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbdx11> <20120425011536.GP24715@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <17809463.979.1335316691327.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbmi19> <20120425013738.GR24715@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:56:39 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: {zdile} is confusingly glossed (was Re: [lojban] Baby word: silly) From: Craig Daniel To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: craigbdaniel@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of craigbdaniel@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=craigbdaniel@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 1 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "stodi.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:54 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 5:59 AM, tijlan wrote: >> >> On 25 April 2012 02:37, Robin Lee Powell >> wrote: >> > {bilga} is "I agreed to do Y". >> >> An obligation can occur or be presumed without agreement from the >> expected agent. A court judge, for example, can rule that koha shall >> spend 10 years in prison regardless of koha's agreement. A prison >> break happens during a servitude: {mi cliva ca lo nu bilga lo nu to'e >> cliva}. > > > I'm not sure a prison sentence can be counted as an obligation unless it > really is agreed to. > [...] Content analysis details: (0.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (craigbdaniel[at]gmail.com) 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, adsp_override is CUSTOM_MED -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:54 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 5:59 AM, tijlan wrote: >> >> On 25 April 2012 02:37, Robin Lee Powell >> wrote: >> > {bilga} is "I agreed to do Y". >> >> An obligation can occur or be presumed without agreement from the >> expected agent. A court judge, for example, can rule that koha shall >> spend 10 years in prison regardless of koha's agreement. A prison >> break happens during a servitude: {mi cliva ca lo nu bilga lo nu to'e >> cliva}. > > > I'm not sure a prison sentence can be counted as an obligation unless it > really is agreed to. > I imagine that depends in part on how you feel about 18th-century attitudes toward social contracts, which probably should not be encoded one way or the other into language design. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.