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From: Matthew Walton To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkyt+AvXH5AgoEXY/ZJuHS6LXD10E8B75RfriwvZPnZ/CGtzDWowt2hrAbqK4AAcNdCEDLW X-Original-Sender: matthew@matthew-walton.co.uk X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of matthew@matthew-walton.co.uk designates 209.85.220.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=matthew@matthew-walton.co.uk Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / You might also want to try http://www.lojban.org/tiki/wavelessonscontinued which takes a different approach to L4B, and also covers more recent developments in the language. You might find it more suitable for you. On 28 April 2012 15:44, .arpis. wrote: > If you're finding the vocabulary easy and the grammar hard, start > working on making simple sentences and seeing how much you can express > and understand. Avoid using tenses and tags; they aren't too > confusing, but they're more grammar and often aren't necessary. > > Also, this post is probably more appropriate in the beginner's list. > > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Feathery Squid = wrote: >> Hi all. >> >> I am trying to learn Lojban,=A0I find the language fascinating,=A0but am= not >> having much success. =A0Most sources out there seem imply the grammar is >> (relatively) simple to pick up but the vocabulary is hard to get, but I = seem >> to have the opposite reaction. I've read through L4B and a bit of CLL. = =A0Any >> recommendations, tips, assistance, etc would be greatly appreciated. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/1lbeoSlgj_wJ. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .arpis. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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