Received: from mail-qc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:47525) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SPJC7-0007I3-Lu; Tue, 01 May 2012 12:57:19 -0700 Received: by qcsq5 with SMTP id q5sf5168079qcs.16 for ; Tue, 01 May 2012 12:57:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wO/Fvbapw+3gX31trv10+iDZlj9IgdglnX3O476izYk=; b=mk2SfRAS/Z7aopqZ71nqs/iuJgK8qLKwWq6hEfS4+UHYWyS3J+Wr+zJ3OZ7Hu1xgTG cRwNdhdkg9sjZyPgWzSenVqwTgq+7YK5QaCSoY+Gq5uCQm8+IFM165eAE1unSxd/HKT8 tb9IggEvfHxh8si+iGnkR8tg2jA+fZ+XD5aTs= Received: by 10.236.170.197 with SMTP id p45mr451495yhl.15.1335902220762; Tue, 01 May 2012 12:57:00 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.176.198 with SMTP id b46ls6401569yhm.2.gmail; Tue, 01 May 2012 12:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.76.133 with SMTP id b5mr37129082yhe.0.1335902220068; Tue, 01 May 2012 12:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.76.133 with SMTP id b5mr37129081yhe.0.1335902220058; Tue, 01 May 2012 12:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie (cpe-069-132-101-103.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.101.103]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id i36si5623867anp.0.2012.05.01.12.56.58; Tue, 01 May 2012 12:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=69.132.101.103; Received: from darner.ixazon.lan (darner.ixazon.lan [192.168.7.5]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B84C268E for ; Tue, 1 May 2012 15:56:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Baby words: babble Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 15:56:54 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (DragonFly/3.1-DEVELOPMENT; KDE/4.5.5; i386; ; ) References: <20120417173733.GQ24715@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <201204171705.19532.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201205011556.54548.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:45:58 Michael Turniansky wrote: > I'd be inclined to cmoni, myself. The focus in bacru is the vocal natu= re > of the utterance, as opposed to non-vocalness, whereas the focus on cmoni > is on the emotion/need that it expresses. But yeah, it will shade off to > bacru as the babies mature. If their vocal tract has not yet descended and they're making sounds that o= nly=20 babies can, that's cooing, or nu cmoni. If their vocal tract has descended = and=20 they're making consonants and vowels but not meaningful words, that's=20 babbling, or nu norbacru. I think there should be a more specific word for= =20 babies cooing, though. Pierre --=20 La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre. Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.