Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f61.google.com ([209.85.215.61]:47653) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SPVTf-0004d1-6y; Wed, 02 May 2012 02:04:07 -0700 Received: by lagv3 with SMTP id v3sf303523lag.16 for ; Wed, 02 May 2012 02:03:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=7MhKAzodbI18uY9SaZyBzZn49y+n/GHhcl0wYBEsAOo=; b=fpBw0jThdN8CquwNCHiUnLW+d7rM90RNxkBv1HxB3+7TJxl+LNDy4biIOr6nLLgMLU 51qu8u3MqBOpTSQmR6tk2LuMpDycB9VfnsU6MdEcoPKD61WYNtrGThJbgVongirnRiC3 uGin8SZo1nbnhkmduiP0pjbNsHTC67fuz4tBo= Received: by 10.205.122.134 with SMTP id gg6mr191217bkc.8.1335949435005; Wed, 02 May 2012 02:03:55 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.88 with SMTP id r24ls197361bks.4.gmail; Wed, 02 May 2012 02:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.149.210 with SMTP id u18mr1068373bkv.1.1335949433313; Wed, 02 May 2012 02:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.149.210 with SMTP id u18mr1068371bkv.1.1335949433287; Wed, 02 May 2012 02:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p5si1540606bks.1.2012.05.02.02.03.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 02 May 2012 02:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.182 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.182; Received: by mail-lb0-f182.google.com with SMTP id n10so295459lbo.41 for ; Wed, 02 May 2012 02:03:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.148.234 with SMTP id tv10mr14171912lab.41.1335949432874; Wed, 02 May 2012 02:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.22.68 with HTTP; Wed, 2 May 2012 02:03:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120502080306.GG21758@nvg.org> References: <20120502050927.GH30708@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20120502080306.GG21758@nvg.org> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 03:03:52 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Baby words: "be careful of X" From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.182 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f2345096266eb04bf09f7d9 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8f2345096266eb04bf09f7d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 10:09:27PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > > I don't see a good way to do this as a bridi. {kajde} isn't use, > > it's mention; that is, {kajde} isn't warning someone, it's talking > > about someone having been warned. I don't see anything else good. > > > > Ideas? > > > > The specific example was "Be carefull pulling on that toy; it's > > going to spring back and hit you and that will hurt". > > A reasonably precise rendition might be ralci+tarti or ralci+pilno. > Those both seem to be the wrong sense of "careful" to me. That is, they mean careful as in "handle with care", not "watch out". > But for small children I'd probably say =93ckape=94 and leave it at that.= :-D > > -- > Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ > Leser =ABCatcher in the Rye=BB. 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On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Arnt Richard Joh= ansen <arj@nvg.org> wrote:
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 10:09:27PM -0700, Robin Lee Powel= l wrote:
>
> I don't see a good way to do this as a bridi. =A0{kajde} isn't= use,
> it's mention; that is, {kajde} isn't warning someone, it's= talking
> about someone having been warned. =A0I don't see anything else goo= d.
>
> Ideas?
>
> The specific example was "Be carefull pulling on that toy; it'= ;s
> going to spring back and hit you and that will hurt".

A reasonably precise rendition might be ralci+tarti or ralci+pilno.

Those both seem to be the wrong sense of "care= ful" to me.
That is, they mean careful as in "handle with car= e", not "watch out".
=A0
But for small children I'd probably say =93ckape=94 and leave it at tha= t. :-D

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Leser =ABCatcher in the Rye=BB. Skal bli fint =E5 bli ferdig med den s=E5 j= eg
f=E5r litt mer dopapir. =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --Erling Kagge: Ale= ne til Sydpolen

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