On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:20 AM, Jo= nathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:17 AM= , Arnt Richard Johansen <arj@nvg.org> wrote:

On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 03:03:52AM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Arnt Richard Johansen <arj@nvg.org> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 10:09:27PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote:=
> > >

> > > The specific example was "Be carefull pullin= g on that toy; it's
> > > going to spring back and hit you and that will hurt". > >
> > A reasonably precise rendition might be ralci+tarti or ralci+piln= o.
>
> Those both seem to be the wrong sense of "careful" to me. > That is, they mean careful as in "handle with care", not &qu= ot;watch out".

As a non-native speaker, I might have been unaware of the subtle shad= es of meaning of the word =93careful=94 (although even after consulting two= dictionaries, I'm not convinced there is a clear distinction between t= he two).

Well, to elaborate, "Be careful transporti= ng that, it's made of class" means to be careful not to break it- = the danger is to the the object. Whereas "Be careful, the stove is hot= " means to be careful interacting with it- the danger is to you.

So, basically the difference is whether the person you're talking t= o is the lo ckape or the lo se ckape, approximately.
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In any case, taken in context, Robin's example seems more like an exhor= tation to handle the toy with care, since watching out isn't likely to = help =96 if it does spring back, there won't be enough time to react.

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