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Wow, really? I suggested ckape before anyone else even read your post. :P

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Robin Lee Powell <
rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:

> On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 10:03:07AM +0200, Arnt Richard Johansen
> wrote:
> > On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 10:09:27PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't see a good way to do this as a bridi.  {kajde} isn't
> > > use, it's mention; that is, {kajde} isn't warning someone, it's
> > > talking about someone having been warned.  I don't see anything
> > > else good.
> > >
> > > Ideas?
> > >
> > > The specific example was "Be carefull pulling on that toy; it's
> > > going to spring back and hit you and that will hurt".
> >
> > A reasonably precise rendition might be ralci+tarti or
> > ralci+pilno.
> >
> > But for small children I'd probably say =93ckape=94 and leave it at
> > that. :-D
>
> Ah, yes, it was {ckape} that I was missing.  Thank you.
>
> It doesn't have anything like "caution" or "care" in its keywords,
> even though it's exactly what I'd use to express that.
>
> -Robin
>
> --
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> lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e
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Wow, really? I suggested ckape before anyone else even read your post. :P<b=
r><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Robin Lee=
 Powell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org=
" target=3D"_blank">rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 10:03:07AM +0200, Ar=
nt Richard Johansen<br>
wrote:<br>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 10:09:27PM -0700, Robin Lee =
Powell wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I don&#39;t see a good way to do this as a bridi. =A0{kajde} isn&=
#39;t<br>
&gt; &gt; use, it&#39;s mention; that is, {kajde} isn&#39;t warning someone=
, it&#39;s<br>
&gt; &gt; talking about someone having been warned. =A0I don&#39;t see anyt=
hing<br>
&gt; &gt; else good.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Ideas?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; The specific example was &quot;Be carefull pulling on that toy; i=
t&#39;s<br>
&gt; &gt; going to spring back and hit you and that will hurt&quot;.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; A reasonably precise rendition might be ralci+tarti or<br>
&gt; ralci+pilno.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; But for small children I&#39;d probably say =93ckape=94 and leave it a=
t<br>
&gt; that. :-D<br>
<br>
</div>Ah, yes, it was {ckape} that I was missing. =A0Thank you.<br>
<br>
It doesn&#39;t have anything like &quot;caution&quot; or &quot;care&quot; i=
n its keywords,<br>
even though it&#39;s exactly what I&#39;d use to express that.<br>
<div class=3D"im HOEnZb"><br>
-Robin<br>
<br>
--<br>
<a href=3D"http://singinst.org/" target=3D"_blank">http://singinst.org/</a>=
 : =A0Our last, best hope for a fantastic future.<br>
.i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go&#39;i li&#39;u =
.e<br>
lu go&#39;i li&#39;u .i ji&#39;a go&#39;i lu na&#39;e go&#39;i li&#39;u .e =
lu go&#39;i na&#39;i li&#39;u .e<br>
lu no&#39;e go&#39;i li&#39;u .e lu to&#39;e go&#39;i li&#39;u .e lu lo mam=
ta be do cu sofybakni li&#39;u<br>
<br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi=
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