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 Content preview:  On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 01:00:48PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
    > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Robin Lee Powell < > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>
    wrote: > > > > > I'm at something of a loss to express happiness at my babies
    putting > > out a real effort at something. That's A Big Deal, because the
    > > latest research indicates that praising effort (rather than innate >
   > ability or accomplishment) is one of the best ways to raise happy > > adults.
    > > > > I've been doing stuff like {.i do nandu troci .io sai}, but it's
   > > pretty unsatisfying. Ideas? > > > > -Robin > > > > Not really, but why
    .io, not ,ui? [...] 
 
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On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 01:00:48PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Robin Lee Powell <
> rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> 
> >
> > I'm at something of a loss to express happiness at my babies putting
> > out a real effort at something.  That's A Big Deal, because the
> > latest research indicates that praising effort (rather than innate
> > ability or accomplishment) is one of the best ways to raise happy
> > adults.
> >
> > I've been doing stuff like {.i do nandu troci .io sai}, but it's
> > pretty unsatisfying.  Ideas?
> >
> > -Robin
> >
> 
> Not really, but why .io, not ,ui?

I do both; depends on my mood.

In particular, when F is trying to crawl, and failing, and getting
oh so frustrated, {.ui} does not seem appropriate.

-Robin

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