Received: from mail-qc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:40082) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1STG4H-0000ry-BD; Sat, 12 May 2012 10:25:23 -0700 Received: by qcsq5 with SMTP id q5sf4418446qcs.16 for ; Sat, 12 May 2012 10:25:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=PGabftvkyLDlbXeJb0bKEOPhItPH0svsuBSMOVUQwHg=; b=kRT9KQ60U41voRZ/bFDf11cXDHQ9ULKgxAvfXlYPx3ug+EPcj9Up4P6XTNbtlqVpFK f+KbaTed/MWcnO+JQA0OJsw4wQ8ADzIGc7huGi35fij5gN+NiC82nAFhMgOHNvkrtIwS wnzocje5tBg0DY6LaXmc3Rjso/zU3Pc/L/kVI= Received: by 10.68.229.225 with SMTP id st1mr38006pbc.10.1336843514326; Sat, 12 May 2012 10:25:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.227.1 with SMTP id rw1ls2871760pbc.3.gmail; Sat, 12 May 2012 10:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.200.227 with SMTP id jv3mr2050048pbc.6.1336843513815; Sat, 12 May 2012 10:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.200.227 with SMTP id jv3mr2050047pbc.6.1336843513809; Sat, 12 May 2012 10:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f45.google.com (mail-pb0-f45.google.com [209.85.160.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ks7si905775pbc.1.2012.05.12.10.25.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 12 May 2012 10:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of craigbdaniel@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.45; Received: by pbbro12 with SMTP id ro12so6270965pbb.4 for ; Sat, 12 May 2012 10:25:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.237.198 with SMTP id ve6mr6779642pbc.116.1336843513631; Sat, 12 May 2012 10:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.189.228 with HTTP; Sat, 12 May 2012 10:25:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <13765994.1942.1336566814390.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynss9> <20120509170127.GR27762@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <27554010.67.1336587846504.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yngr14> <20120509192018.GS27762@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <524651.567.1336675068460.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbak7> <28872598.911.1336731707204.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbws2> <20120511233208.GC1837@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <7475709.243.1336804273567.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbq5> <26105036.424.1336821755715.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynmb39> Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 13:25:13 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Word changing and word creation (was Re: [lojban] bugs in jbovlaste) From: Craig Daniel To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: craigbdaniel@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of craigbdaniel@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=craigbdaniel@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Jacob Errington wrote: > It seems to me like some of the gismu are somewhat redundant to other gismu, > or exist solely for the sake of simplifying lujvo. The gismu are not semantic primitives, nor were they meant to be. You can speak a lot more succinctly with more of them; in fact, given the morphological constraints and the desire to keep the vocabulary (including common lujvo, used more often given the limits on gismu colliding with one another) from being so huge nobody can plausibly remember it all, the set we have now may be nearly [i]maximal[/i]. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.