Received: from mail-ey0-f189.google.com ([209.85.215.189]:45925) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1STQw6-00041t-6h; Sat, 12 May 2012 22:01:50 -0700 Received: by eaad14 with SMTP id d14sf2413410eaa.16 for ; Sat, 12 May 2012 22:01:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=o9/Wa7pwBo7HXf9PQFi2Jk7vE3E/vCZWxOHYdXJKDqE=; b=Mf+K9g1oKShNdIba/JZDlWmnYoLlP0/Z0KSlcyV2rHhAqFaQMXfdlXR92iEWNdUTl/ odxXd83gn8g47diDp0TNAUU228Ka/qo+ZzdtvMyyzJMIpUXXcvYeDD15+OienI5e/7lz m8i7S1hsLiQXYPdxG1VMvPTpdFk9W9FFay6iw= Received: by 10.204.150.91 with SMTP id x27mr77572bkv.18.1336885290500; Sat, 12 May 2012 22:01:30 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.128.67 with SMTP id j3ls3405667bks.9.gmail; Sat, 12 May 2012 22:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.141.4 with SMTP id k4mr370735bku.6.1336885289598; Sat, 12 May 2012 22:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.141.4 with SMTP id k4mr370734bku.6.1336885289579; Sat, 12 May 2012 22:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f180.google.com (mail-lb0-f180.google.com [209.85.217.180]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ig3si17434506bkc.3.2012.05.12.22.01.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 12 May 2012 22:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.180 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.180; Received: by lbbgh12 with SMTP id gh12so3570595lbb.11 for ; Sat, 12 May 2012 22:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.103.8 with SMTP id fs8mr1653708lbb.29.1336885289174; Sat, 12 May 2012 22:01:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.48.99 with HTTP; Sat, 12 May 2012 22:01:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <13765994.1942.1336566814390.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynss9> <20120509170127.GR27762@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <27554010.67.1336587846504.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yngr14> <20120509192018.GS27762@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <524651.567.1336675068460.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbak7> <28872598.911.1336731707204.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbws2> <20120511233208.GC1837@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <7475709.243.1336804273567.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbq5> <26105036.424.1336821755715.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynmb39> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 01:01:09 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Word changing and word creation (was Re: [lojban] bugs in jbovlaste) To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.180 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0401fa8dc4482604bfe3dcd9 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d0401fa8dc4482604bfe3dcd9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Jacob Errington wrote: > >> > Except for arguably cilre/facki, none of those are synonyms. >> I never said they were *synonymous*, I said that they could be reduced >> into one or an other. If one *does* use the more degenerate form, then >> there're additional implications to be handled, such as tense, >> usually. >> Also, I'd say that the difference between "learning" and "finding out" >> is that one requires volition. >> I don't see things like [i mi cilre lo du'u lo mamtymamta cu co'a >> morsi], I see things like [i mi facki lo du'u...]. >> Some synonyms: >> mrobi'o and co'amro >> tolyli'a and klamu'o >> ckaji and tolcau >> claxu and tolkai >> binxo and co'arkai >> cliva and klama >> lasna and jongau >> > > Most of those aren't gismu, so they don't count, leaving us with only > cliva/klama.Don't respond to something if you're addressing it. > Is this supposed to be ".. if you're NOT addressing it"? stevo > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Jonath= an Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 9:42 P= M, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:
> Except for arguably cilre/facki, none of those are synonyms.
I never said they were *synonymous*, I said t= hat they could be reduced
into one or an other. If one *does* use the more degenerate form, then
there're additional implications to be handled, such as tense,
usually.
Also, I'd say that the difference between "learning" and &quo= t;finding out"
is that one requires volition.
I don't see things like [i mi cilre lo du'u lo mamtymamta cu co'= ;a
morsi], I see things like [i mi facki lo du'u...].
Some synonyms:
mrobi'o and co'amro
tolyli'a and klamu'o
ckaji and tolcau
claxu and tolkai
binxo and co'arkai
cliva and klama
lasna and jongau

Most of those= aren't gismu, so they don't count, leaving us with only cliva/klam= a.Don't respond to something if you're addressing it.

Is this supposed to be ".. if y= ou're NOT addressing it"?

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