Received: from mail-ob0-f189.google.com ([209.85.214.189]:60828) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1STRro-0004Lc-U1; Sat, 12 May 2012 23:01:27 -0700 Received: by obbtb18 with SMTP id tb18sf5814109obb.16 for ; Sat, 12 May 2012 23:01:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=14j1lJ4p6VZ6kFh52u6hEjS7ye/3UlvRnq8CkAxb6ko=; b=OIMcNjoo5K3IkwsogeZp71Vt/gbn1Q6cW7T1u9jwPlsaOxhOYqtq8UND3cUz7p9ya0 Ht2/1wgvE6C5jg1a59BetoV8rPqLT1fOXnnkTU/DHtYi08tCManfSQkgW90Dk05O4bPl +6Fp/dp4ohqvSIg+Hv3e3Ha1Du/aRyYnkr1PU= Received: by 10.52.24.52 with SMTP id r20mr117358vdf.3.1336888870082; Sat, 12 May 2012 23:01:10 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.173.225 with SMTP id bn1ls3415611vdc.6.gmail; Sat, 12 May 2012 23:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.34.8 with SMTP id v8mr114277vdi.5.1336888869012; Sat, 12 May 2012 23:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 23:01:08 -0700 (PDT) From: gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <5683060.1568.1336888868482.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbq19> In-Reply-To: References: <7321907.260.1336829133552.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynz24> <20120512173520.GJ1837@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <8573463.77.1336885324334.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbaf5> Subject: Re: [lojban] Etymology of future gismu (if they are to be created) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 1 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "stodi.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: >>I know from experience that any and all translation programs are horrid at translation. >>Furthermore, I don't see any need to include more languages into the algorithm. Transliteration *may be* horrid indeed (especially in case of Arabic). However, audio recordings can solve this issue. The algorithm was chosen to make people from all over the world learn words quicker. If so why limit the number of source languages to 6? Russian is no longer among first 6. There is probably Bengali or Indonesian instead of it. And do those 6 languages really represent the majority of the population of the planet? The most trustworthy answer is the following. If adding more languages changes the resulting sounding then 6 languages are not enough. [...] Content analysis details: (0.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (gleki.is.my.name[at]gmail.com) 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, adsp_override is CUSTOM_MED -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid >>I know from experience that any and all translation programs are horrid at translation. >>Furthermore, I don't see any need to include more languages into the algorithm. Transliteration *may be* horrid indeed (especially in case of Arabic). However, audio recordings can solve this issue. The algorithm was chosen to make people from all over the world learn words quicker. If so why limit the number of source languages to 6? Russian is no longer among first 6. There is probably Bengali or Indonesian instead of it. And do those 6 languages really represent the majority of the population of the planet? The most trustworthy answer is the following. If adding more languages changes the resulting sounding then 6 languages are not enough. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/PigADiIPnt4J. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.