Received: from mail-ee0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]:46607) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1STwEN-0002ne-Vu; Mon, 14 May 2012 07:26:44 -0700 Received: by eekb57 with SMTP id b57sf2351494eek.16 for ; Mon, 14 May 2012 07:26:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=rsvbYMaDs2njCeG/jF/1b0T8IdPfvJNRWbiT+slufMw=; b=se/eQvlZzNaOYDNtyCczyGHvstt/MUBR4Cqly/sWOmIdscMdCIVGDkw1d6iNKBm7rB bZUCaN9GZvU5ENoFAEqox6UW3quXh6fJzLl9Wr9ZB2dw6w2JFYwLlBVUbUCT1MmBPiuN /zMxAbSTVAq7Dx4KYPg+3EfzvWfLLCG9u6BD4= Received: by 10.205.141.75 with SMTP id jd11mr185667bkc.29.1337005587803; Mon, 14 May 2012 07:26:27 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.145 with SMTP id t17ls7198858bks.8.gmail; Mon, 14 May 2012 07:26:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.132.81 with SMTP id a17mr916096bkt.4.1337005586245; Mon, 14 May 2012 07:26:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.132.81 with SMTP id a17mr916095bkt.4.1337005586218; Mon, 14 May 2012 07:26:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ig3si22859586bkc.3.2012.05.14.07.26.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 14 May 2012 07:26:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.169; Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id n8so5236090lbj.14 for ; Mon, 14 May 2012 07:26:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.103.8 with SMTP id fs8mr3848516lbb.29.1337005585803; Mon, 14 May 2012 07:26:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.48.99 with HTTP; Mon, 14 May 2012 07:26:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7348246.642.1336986293307.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbvi9> References: <13765994.1942.1336566814390.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynss9> <20120509170127.GR27762@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <27554010.67.1336587846504.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yngr14> <20120509192018.GS27762@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <524651.567.1336675068460.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbak7> <28872598.911.1336731707204.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbws2> <20120511233208.GC1837@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <7475709.243.1336804273567.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbq5> <26105036.424.1336821755715.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynmb39> <7348246.642.1336986293307.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbvi9> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 10:26:05 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Word changing and word creation (was Re: [lojban] bugs in jbovlaste) To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0401fa8d012b1204bfffdff3 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d0401fa8d012b1204bfffdff3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 5:04 AM, gleki wrote: > >>How do you define a semantic primitive? According to NSM, there are only > about 63 semantic primitives. > > pe'i the list of prims is not complete and is not likely to be complete in > the nearest future. > Also this list looks more what Anna Wierzbicka suggested many years ago. > I agree it's technically not complete, but people have been working on it nonstop since the project started, and there are no more easy primitives. Indeed, the list may actually be complete, but such can't be proven. OTOH, even if many more (30?) primitives are found, that's still less than 100. > > .ueru'e, no progress since then? > Then it won't be finished even in 100 years if mi'o lazni. > There has been continuous work on this project. But it will likely never be complete, in the same sense that a natlang is never complete. stevo > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/_WcsInrKuygJ. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --f46d0401fa8d012b1204bfffdff3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 5:04 AM, gleki <= span dir=3D"ltr"><gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
>>How do you define a semantic primitive? According= to NSM, there are only about 63 semantic primitives.

pe'i the list of prims is not complete and is not likely to be co= mplete in the nearest future.
Also this list looks more what Anna Wierzbicka suggested many years ago.

I agree it's technically not complete= , but people have been working on it nonstop since the project started, and= there are no more easy primitives. Indeed, the list may actually be comple= te, but such can't be proven. OTOH, even if many more (30?) primitives = are found, that's still less than 100. =A0

.ueru'e, no progress since then?
Then it won't be finished even in 100 years if mi'o lazni.

There has been continuous work on this project.= But it will likely never be complete, in the same sense that a natlang is = never complete.=A0

stevo=A0

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