Received: from mail-ob0-f189.google.com ([209.85.214.189]:60939) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1STwnz-00036p-29; Mon, 14 May 2012 08:03:27 -0700 Received: by obbtb18 with SMTP id tb18sf7576252obb.16 for ; Mon, 14 May 2012 08:03:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=fPcutJMk84L4TR88317buix/uX5oovauBYgoSfRVV0o=; b=spYmhMxdqLsbZdW2XFkfmlEGK14lg6AiUPiRYVkotLe83zGzjlmRKfEa1YC5Q6UEym p35/vj2AYiY3UW3eQmOGjFAXrh0KCOfmZ30AzK/s2a4s8o5ZlP+Sg++NKZ5HLJEVZS5p x5hzdxFSokoKk14o5a3Q3euCm3phvPkHppuTI= Received: by 10.68.223.105 with SMTP id qt9mr603104pbc.13.1337007796319; Mon, 14 May 2012 08:03:16 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.211.202 with SMTP id ne10ls10920006pbc.7.gmail; Mon, 14 May 2012 08:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.190.70 with SMTP id go6mr316750pbc.0.1337007795579; Mon, 14 May 2012 08:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 08:03:14 -0700 (PDT) From: gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <321032.929.1337007794519.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbcoz4> In-Reply-To: References: <13765994.1942.1336566814390.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynss9> <20120509170127.GR27762@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <27554010.67.1336587846504.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yngr14> <20120509192018.GS27762@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <524651.567.1336675068460.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbak7> <28872598.911.1336731707204.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbws2> <20120511233208.GC1837@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <7475709.243.1336804273567.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbq5> <26105036.424.1336821755715.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynmb39> <7348246.642.1336986293307.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbvi9> Subject: Re: Word changing and word creation (was Re: [lojban] bugs in jbovlaste) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / >>There has been continuous work on this project. But it will likely never be complete, in the same sense that a natlang is never complete. Can you tell me what prims were discovered each decade since the work started? Or at least what are the most recent prims? The links to articles will be enough. ta'o mi se spaji that definitions of the prims look like "normal" dictionary. Where are our lovely sumti places??? Can't believe that cuz I always thought that lojban was based on something globally universal. And this is what common sense tells. 5 sumti of {klama} may be non-natural but 2 sumti of {spaji} are definitely universal. .e'u we should rewrite the list making a more usable version with sumti. substantives I, YOU, SOMEONE, PEOPLE, SOMETHING/THING, BODY relational substantives KIND, PART determiners THIS, THE SAME, OTHER/ELSE quantifiers ONE, TWO, MUCH/MANY, SOME, ALL evaluators GOOD, BAD descriptors BIG, SMALL mental predicates THINK, KNOW, WANT, FEEL, SEE, HEAR speech SAY, WORDS, TRUE actions, events, movement, contact DO, HAPPEN, MOVE, TOUCH location, existence, possession, specification BE (SOMEWHERE), THERE IS, HAVE, BE (SOMEONE/SOMETHING) life and death LIVE, DIE time WHEN/TIME, NOW, BEFORE, AFTER, A LONG TIME, A SHORT TIME, FOR SOME TIME, MOMENT space WHERE/PLACE, HERE, ABOVE, BELOW, FAR, NEAR, SIDE, INSIDE logical concepts NOT, MAYBE, CAN, BECAUSE, IF intensifier, augmentor VERY, MORE similarity LIKE/WAY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/aQiSihz1hF8J. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.