Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]:50189) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SYUJN-0005h9-ER; Sat, 26 May 2012 20:38:38 -0700 Received: by daek18 with SMTP id k18sf1762461dae.16 for ; Sat, 26 May 2012 20:38:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id :subject:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=h3VdA6OneV9rDKGfW1a2ylOck4iMrpCQXsWtyGb+WQE=; b=48zVfdmfHG8gHA+Oh9qttKIYIXYobWKzj5iZmF36HBz7zdAwQTrLtDof5NP5jBV2wf zDr+g13AyuXYdMZJ/XMQ8cdQcllem9iy+gDZetaD7jG3UL4sQnepiTwnMgy2XmTjtj67 iCf0cILaoNRa2HoF7Qd70DlMEgOlYTsnE5668= Received: by 10.50.197.129 with SMTP id iu1mr335120igc.3.1338089906966; Sat, 26 May 2012 20:38:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.49.81 with SMTP id u17ls3067277ibf.6.gmail; Sat, 26 May 2012 20:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.94.166 with SMTP id dd6mr1987339igb.3.1338089905478; Sat, 26 May 2012 20:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.94.166 with SMTP id dd6mr1987338igb.3.1338089905467; Sat, 26 May 2012 20:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f170.google.com (mail-ob0-f170.google.com [209.85.214.170]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s10si971337igs.0.2012.05.26.20.38.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 26 May 2012 20:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.170 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.170; Received: by obbuo13 with SMTP id uo13so7599162obb.1 for ; Sat, 26 May 2012 20:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.2.35 with SMTP id 3mr3768373oer.63.1338089905119; Sat, 26 May 2012 20:38:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.14.9 with HTTP; Sat, 26 May 2012 20:38:04 -0700 (PDT) From: ".arpis." Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 23:38:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Implicit backward-facing scope for attitudinals To: Lojban X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / My first thought was {fu'o} without {fu'e}, but I know better... Say, after typing (or saying) a paragraph, I would like to reveal that I was being sarcastic the entire time. This roughly resembles the occasionally used in geeky forums "" construct without a corresponding opening tag. I've also found myself wanting this for other emotions and after some thought, recognized that I basically want it to apply to UI. As far as I know, this isn't expressible in lojban (not that it's expressible in any other language I know), but it's something people have a desire to do. Does this warrant an experimental cmavo, or should it be left as is, with something like {no'i je'u nai} (or something else) standing in? -- mu'o mi'e .arpis. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.