Received: from mail-qc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:38009) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SYWRO-0006YK-HA; Sat, 26 May 2012 22:55:14 -0700 Received: by qcsq5 with SMTP id q5sf2452806qcs.16 for ; Sat, 26 May 2012 22:54:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IQXbl7PXi7FdxsRPmm9QGGejqwbazGTEnJFlmrL4A/k=; b=Wpokk6F080vk3WSPp/+oThyHevLA8N9zs66CXvrCyt0WCFYyqgCYHLd6a2Xjml4rUn bA8+QccrsgpSc3uFWTde7jQR0TuM8gRiVLPtt7y04iA/JHU/ubxQ34H9HpjxEmGYSX0F isUGZE1+hT828akFKWGJGG2/dj418/dLrflhI= Received: by 10.68.227.73 with SMTP id ry9mr627969pbc.16.1338098091476; Sat, 26 May 2012 22:54:51 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.195.100 with SMTP id id4ls14283804pbc.8.gmail; Sat, 26 May 2012 22:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.220.230 with SMTP id pz6mr3662897pbc.3.1338098091095; Sat, 26 May 2012 22:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.220.230 with SMTP id pz6mr3662896pbc.3.1338098091087; Sat, 26 May 2012 22:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id iq5si18290127pbc.1.2012.05.26.22.54.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 26 May 2012 22:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SYWRF-0006Y5-TD; Sat, 26 May 2012 22:54:49 -0700 Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 22:54:49 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Cc: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: Re: [lojban] Baby Words: Effort. Message-ID: <20120527055449.GC3745@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com, lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20120504185220.GJ13003@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 08:08:50PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: > > > > I'm at something of a loss to express happiness at my babies putting > > out a real effort at something. =A0That's A Big Deal, because the > > latest research indicates that praising effort (rather than innate > > ability or accomplishment) is one of the best ways to raise happy > > adults. > > > > I've been doing stuff like {.i do nandu troci .io sai}, but it's > > pretty unsatisfying. =A0Ideas? >=20 > ".a'i dai .i'e" I was thinking bridi; I find the current (incredibly fuzzy) semantics of {dai} unsatisfying. Nailing that shit down is on the list. -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni li= 'u --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.