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From: Jacob Errington Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 23:43:44 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] the day after tomorrow and the day before yesterday To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f3af06a884804c124a5d8 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --20cf307f3af06a884804c124a5d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, there is. The gismu deep structure is wrong: lo ka bavbavlamdei cu ka ce'u djedi gi'e lamji ce'u noi balvi *lo balvi be ce'u* where the added on "lo balvi" is the result of tacking on the extra -bav-. So "a day that is adjacent to an event that is in the future of the future of an event" i.e. BAD. In fact, the GDS for bavlamdei is really messy: lo ka bavlamdei cu ka ce'u djedi gi'e lamji ce'u noi balvi ce'u You might as well just use {ba za re lo djedi} My ramblings: {lo se detri be li za'u} is an interesting solution, where the number of "tomorrows" can be indicated after the za'u: {lo se detri be li za'ure} -> "the day after tomorrow" and {lo se detri be li za'uci} "the day after that". If {za'u} had a lujvo, which is sadly does not, I'd propose: {za'u zei seldetri} = x1 is the event occurring on date x2 days after x3 at location x4 by caldendar x5. Unfortunately {za'u zei seldetri} suffers from karcykla syndrome: is it days, months, weeks, years? *shrug* we can't know. Even with {lo se detri be li za'u} we can't really know to what the za'u is adding. On 28 May 2012 22:50, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: > Is there something wrong with {bavbavlamdei} and {pruprulamdei}? > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Jacob Errington > wrote: > > Well, considering {bavlamdei = d1=b1=l1 is tomorrow; d1=b1=l1 is the day > > following b2=l2, day standard d3,} > > {lo bavlamdei be lo bavlamdei (be lo cabdei)} does it, but that's long. > > You could say {lo bavlamdei bavlamdei} but that's almost as long. > > I personally have used the PA rafsi to pull this off: {lo relbavlamdei} > or > > {lo bavrelylamdei}; however, I don't know if this is acceptable. > > > > > > On 26 May 2012 15:54, Andrew Dibble wrote: > >> > >> Is there a simple Lojban word for these phrases? > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "lojban" group. > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/039gbB7uvNAJ. > >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > -- > Alex R > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --20cf307f3af06a884804c124a5d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, there is. The gismu deep structure is wrong:

lo ka bavbavlamdei cu= ka ce'u djedi gi'e lamji ce'u noi balvi *lo balvi be ce'u*=

where the added on "lo balvi" is the result of tacking= on the extra -bav-.

So "a day that is adjacent to an event that is in the future of t= he future of an event" i.e. BAD.

In fact, the= GDS for bavlamdei is really messy:

lo ka bavlamdei cu ka ce'= u djedi gi'e lamji ce'u noi balvi ce'u

You might as well just use {ba za re lo djedi}

My ramblings:

{lo se detri be li za'u} is an= interesting solution, where the number of "tomorrows" can be ind= icated after the za'u:

{lo se detri be li za'ure} -> "the day after tomorrow"= ; and {lo se detri be li za'uci} "the day after that".

<= div>If {za'u} had a lujvo, which is sadly does not, I'd propose: {z= a'u zei seldetri} =3D x1 is the event occurring on date x2 days after x= 3 at location x4 by caldendar x5.

Unfortunately {za'u zei seldetri} suffers from karcykla syndrome: = is it days, months, weeks, years? *shrug* we can't know. Even with {lo = se detri be li za'u} we can't really know to what the za'u is a= dding.

On 28 May 2012 22:50, Alex Rozenshteyn = <rpglover64@gmail.com> wrote:

Is there something wrong with {bavbavlamdei} and {pruprulamdei}?

On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, considering {bavlamdei =3D d1=3Db1=3Dl1 is tomorrow; d1=3Db1=3Dl= 1 is the day
> following b2=3Dl2, day standard d3,}
> {lo bavlamdei be lo bavlamdei (be lo cabdei)} does it, but that's = long.
> You could say {lo bavlamdei bavlamdei} but that's almost as long.<= br> > I personally have used the PA rafsi to pull this off: {lo relbavlamdei= } or
> {lo bavrelylamdei}; however, I don't know if this is acceptable. >
>
> On 26 May 2012 15:54, Andrew Dibble <acdibble@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Is there a simple Lojban word for these phrases?
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