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{fu'o} without {fu'e} is what I'd suggest, but I'll admit that it's not
spelled out in the official docs. The grammar can't enforce {fu'e...fu'o}
balancing, so it's up to the semantics to decide what happens if they're
unbalanced. When I was writing up that section of the BPFK, I put it that
they can nest (again, never before mentioned), that {fu'e} without {fu'o}
goes to end of text, and that {fu'o} without {fu'e} goes to start of text.
Oh, and that the effected attitudinal can be after the {fu'e} or the
{fu'o}. These all seem like reasonable, backwards compatible extensions,
and I don't see any reason why we'd need an experimental cmavo for it.

On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 10:38 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com>wrote:

> My first thought was {fu'o} without {fu'e}, but I know better... Say,
> after typing (or saying) a paragraph, I would like to reveal that I
> was being sarcastic the entire time. This roughly resembles the
> occasionally used in geeky forums "</sarcasm>" construct without a
> corresponding opening tag. I've also found myself wanting this for
> other emotions and after some thought, recognized that I basically
> want it to apply to UI.
>
> As far as I know, this isn't expressible in lojban (not that it's
> expressible in any other language I know), but it's something people
> have a desire to do.
>
> Does this warrant an experimental cmavo, or should it be left as is,
> with something like {no'i je'u nai} (or something else) standing in?
>
> --
> mu'o mi'e .arpis.
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{fu&#39;o} without {fu&#39;e} is what I&#39;d suggest, but I&#39;ll admit t=
hat it&#39;s not spelled out in the official docs. The grammar can&#39;t en=
force {fu&#39;e...fu&#39;o} balancing, so it&#39;s up to the semantics to d=
ecide what happens if they&#39;re unbalanced. When I was writing up that se=
ction of the BPFK, I put it that they can nest (again, never before mention=
ed), that {fu&#39;e} without {fu&#39;o} goes to end of text, and that {fu&#=
39;o} without {fu&#39;e} goes to start of text. Oh, and that the effected a=
ttitudinal can be after the {fu&#39;e} or the {fu&#39;o}. These all seem li=
ke reasonable, backwards compatible extensions, and I don&#39;t see any rea=
son why we&#39;d need an experimental cmavo for it.<br>

<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 10:38 PM, .arpis. <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex">

My first thought was {fu&#39;o} without {fu&#39;e}, but I know better... Sa=
y,<br>
after typing (or saying) a paragraph, I would like to reveal that I<br>
was being sarcastic the entire time. This roughly resembles the<br>
occasionally used in geeky forums &quot;&lt;/sarcasm&gt;&quot; construct wi=
thout a<br>
corresponding opening tag. I&#39;ve also found myself wanting this for<br>
other emotions and after some thought, recognized that I basically<br>
want it to apply to UI.<br>
<br>
As far as I know, this isn&#39;t expressible in lojban (not that it&#39;s<b=
r>
expressible in any other language I know), but it&#39;s something people<br=
>
have a desire to do.<br>
<br>
Does this warrant an experimental cmavo, or should it be left as is,<br>
with something like {no&#39;i je&#39;u nai} (or something else) standing in=
?<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
--<br>
mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .arpis.<br>
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