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On Thursday 31 May 2012 22:03:22 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote:
> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Robin Lee Powell
>
> <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> > xorxes:
> >
> > you did http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/selfa'a , which I
> > do not grok at all.
> >
> > {le berti cu farna le plise mi} means "the apple is to my north",
>
> I take "farna" to be about orientation, not about location. There is
> "ragve" for the relative locations of three objects in line.
>
> "The apple is to my north" is just "lo plise cu berti mi", but if "le
> berti" is "The North", and you want to say that the apple is between
> you and that thing you describe as "The North", you can say "le berti
> cu ragve lo plise mi". No need for "farna" to duplicate that.

I consider "le berti cu farna le plise mi" to be equivalent to "le plise cu=
=20
berti mi", but would translate it "north is the direction of the apple from=
=20
me". You can put more complicated things in x1 of farna, like "lo berstuna=
=20
julra'o be li rezepimuvopi'ecici".

Pierre
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