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On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:03:22PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote:
> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Robin Lee Powell
> <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> >
> > xorxes:
> >
> > you did http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/selfa'a , which I do
> > not grok at all.
> >
> > {le berti cu farna le plise mi} means "the apple is to my
> > north",
>=20
> I take "farna" to be about orientation, not about location.=20

On what basis?

> There is "ragve" for the relative locations of three objects in
> line.

That's a reason to *wish* farna was about orientation, but I see no
evidence that it actually *is* about orientation.

-Robin

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