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On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Robin Lee Powell
<rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:03:22PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote:
>>
>> I take "farna" to be about orientation, not about location.
>
> On what basis?

It's what makes the most sense.

>> There is "ragve" for the relative locations of three objects in
>> line.
>
> That's a reason to *wish* farna was about orientation, but I see no
> evidence that it actually *is* about orientation.

I can give you lots of usage as evidence, but maybe it would be mostly from=
 me.

I also take "fa'a" to be about orientation and not about location, BTW.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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