Received: from mail-lb0-f189.google.com ([209.85.217.189]:40221) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SaRod-0001Wx-EN; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 06:23:02 -0700 Received: by lbol5 with SMTP id l5sf1224446lbo.16 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 06:22:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authenticated:x-provags-id:message-id :date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-y-gmx-trusted:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EVCA1H7aaotA0JBIg1sDGE8Z6DdkFbtJsVc6Qz7Kgso=; b=cJbKn/hsnB6/595LzIxLv15VBk8uqTogjJNZ/Z8QgdPp/fs7hUQ0B5GKyC5shIKbHC 6wgg6H+WkeGReAiM8rhVZvfKyTxq+sNYrKva3874NdGo+SaDxbYI/G7k28l3L6FI4QHZ y64yLAyDK3TRtFMhweAKrf3heDGCNuNUVhGls= Received: by 10.216.194.198 with SMTP id m48mr85138wen.65.1338556966571; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 06:22:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.75.78 with SMTP id a14ls570261wiw.4.gmail; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 06:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.207.232 with SMTP id n82mr689669weo.0.1338556963416; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 06:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.207.232 with SMTP id n82mr689668weo.0.1338556963400; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 06:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net. [213.165.64.23]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id x8si854363wif.3.2012.06.01.06.22.43; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 06:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) client-ip=213.165.64.23; Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 Jun 2012 13:22:42 -0000 Received: from p57A08C76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.1.33]) [87.160.140.118] by mail.gmx.net (mp035) with SMTP; 01 Jun 2012 15:22:42 +0200 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18gAd4+6WEgSYYGLOSTKxQOWKCe6rDIIDMSOljTas YwVdyd/RPm+kMx Message-ID: <4FC8C21D.5050901@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:22:37 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Directional facing (xorxes, please read). References: <20120601005902.GE8656@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20120601080026.GJ8656@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Am 01.06.2012 14:00, schrieb Jorge Llamb=EDas: > On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: >> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:03:22PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: >>> I take "farna" to be about orientation, not about location. >> On what basis? > It's what makes the most sense. Agreed. >>> There is "ragve" for the relative locations of three objects in >>> line. >> That's a reason to *wish* farna was about orientation, but I see no >> evidence that it actually *is* about orientation. > I can give you lots of usage as evidence, but maybe it would be mostly fr= om me. > > I also take "fa'a" to be about orientation and not about location, BTW. Exactly. fa'a indicates the orientation of the main event. And since=20 fa'a is fi'o farna, farna also must be about orientation. I use fa'a=20 exclusively for orientation. mu'o mi'e la selpa'i --=20 .i da xamgu ganse fi no na'ebo lo risna .i lo vajrai cu nonselji'u lo kanla --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.