Received: from mail-gg0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]:65339) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sb0MT-0007Zr-Rv; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:16:15 -0700 Received: by ggke5 with SMTP id e5sf3102376ggk.16 for ; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:16:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=04UKjTT/oiuHXvpxiimwnkHszssOSvY7MRLFwtl2gmQ=; b=PBlvg1SEaI7qQCgmCGxAINjIYPkVvk7DUbjHWV4ey34Q6/dQGeW+hkshbGZUappz7A 3TQnUt672yxh/3h0j+Q8pKSsNGA7MCCDGUBMBtNPnH3TPWEDJUHJHW8jCMBz+XpPSA+K 4NiHwVV2nbA+BulfTPM1ZDv76QYzsRSMW4gDQ= Received: by 10.236.116.5 with SMTP id f5mr78568yhh.2.1338689761155; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:16:01 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.124.81 with SMTP id w57ls4416776yhh.2.gmail; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.76.133 with SMTP id b5mr5417629yhe.0.1338689760047; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.76.133 with SMTP id b5mr5417628yhe.0.1338689760037; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie (cpe-069-132-101-103.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.101.103]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id p72si4554418yhh.1.2012.06.02.19.15.59; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=69.132.101.103; Received: from ip6-localhost (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 238F22216 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:15:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Directional facing (xorxes, please read). Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:15:56 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <20120601005902.GE8656@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <201206011710.33797.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201206022215.57629.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Saturday 02 June 2012 06:28:50 tijlan wrote: > For me, FAhA and BAI are both prepositions, things you can put > (-position) before (pre-) another constituent to combine with it. Also > I don't think BAI can be entirely excluded from "tense words": "fa'e", > "di'o"... don't seem less tense-ish than "fa'a", "pa'o"... . By "proper preposition" I mean a preposition that can't also be used as a tense marker, i.e. a member of BAI. Tense markers, of which there are several selma'o, can be used as prepositions, but cannot be converted with SE as BAI can. Both kinds of prepositions can combine with BO to get a phrase that can combine with a preceding conjunction or I. Pierre -- I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.