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It's not a question of whether it would make sense. It can't be done. FAhA
cmavo grammatically can not be converted. I would assume for the same
reason the PU can not be converted, as both are tenses.

On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 3:13 AM, tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 3 June 2012 03:15, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> > Tense markers, of which there are several selma'o, can be used as
> prepositions, but cannot be converted with SE as BAI can.
>
> To the extent that FAhA etc. can control at least one sumti, the
> notion of valency seems as much applicable to them as to BAI. "fa'a"
> (FAhA) is one-valence, and "fa'e" (BAI) is two-valence. "se" likely
> wouldn't make sense with a one-valence word, but the combination could
> well be grammatical -- "prenu" is one-valence, without a predefined
> second argument place, but "se prenu" is grammatical, syntactically
> valid.
>
> mu'o
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It&#39;s not a question of whether it would make sense. It can&#39;t be don=
e. FAhA cmavo grammatically can not be converted. I would assume for the sa=
me reason the PU can not be converted, as both are tenses.<br><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote">
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 3:13 AM, tijlan <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:jbotijlan@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jbotijlan@gmail.com</a>&gt;</spa=
n> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"im">On 3 June 2012 03:15, Pierre Abbat &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
phma@phma.optus.nu">phma@phma.optus.nu</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Tense markers, of which there are several selma&#39;o, can be used as =
prepositions, but cannot be converted with SE as BAI can.<br>
<br>
</div>To the extent that FAhA etc. can control at least one sumti, the<br>
notion of valency seems as much applicable to them as to BAI. &quot;fa&#39;=
a&quot;<br>
(FAhA) is one-valence, and &quot;fa&#39;e&quot; (BAI) is two-valence. &quot=
;se&quot; likely<br>
wouldn&#39;t make sense with a one-valence word, but the combination could<=
br>
well be grammatical -- &quot;prenu&quot; is one-valence, without a predefin=
ed<br>
second argument place, but &quot;se prenu&quot; is grammatical, syntactical=
ly<br>
valid.<br>
<br>
mu&#39;o<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
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