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Clifford" X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 2_0_0_48_14750959_ABvdi2IAAW+/T8t2PgirfRC9rvU Subject: Re: [lojban] Translation assistance for my fictional universe Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 13:46:09 -0500 To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 98.139.53.196 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--335281877 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --Apple-Mail-1--335281877 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I presume you mean a humm of one of the cultures. Sent from my iPad On Jun 3, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Terry Sofian wrote: > I continue to work on the Hive, Queen and Country Universe. In this ficti= onal universe aliens have taught humans lojban. lojban is used on Venus. I = have absolutely no facility with language and can use as much assistance as= anyone would be willing provide. I have a list of terms below that I would= like translated. I also have a few naming conventions as well. Finally I h= ave a "hymn" of one of the cultures. I will give full credit for translatio= n to anyone that assists me. Please feel free to respond off list. Thanks! > =20 > Terry Sofian > TSofian@aol.com > =20 > =20 > How would the following be rendered in lojban? > =20 > Beyond the Clouds > =20 > Hosts > Priest > Warrior > Weapon Maker > Seafarer > Ship Builder > Craftsman > Farmer > Servant > Slave > Unholy > =20 > Family Names are based on a characteristic tool or practice of the caste.= Birth Names is based on sex and birth order. > An English translation of the lojban would be Warrior: Bright Spears: Sec= ond Son: Slays Merchant. He would be called Slays Merchant in normal conver= sation between equals or by someone above him in caste. > In the most formal setting the triumphs of this person would include "Tak= er of the Great Northern Convoy, Robber of Many Merchants, First upon the E= nemy's Deck and such like. > Cities are each dedicated to a Sea King deity. Think of this as calling a= city after a Christian Saint, such as St Louis, or St Malo. > God of Destruction-Capital City > Goddess Mother of Warriors > Other Cities > Battle Lust > Lucky Ships > Death in Combat > Long Voyages > Stampeders of Foes > =20 > =20 > The Cities of the River Empire are named for the family that first settle= d it. Family names are based on occupations, such as Weaver, Farmer, Banner= man, Cook, Shepard, Slothherd, Birdwarden. The term for town, fortress or c= ity is added as a prefix > Fortress Slothherd > City Riverman > Town Merchanter > =20 > =20 > Hymn of the Sea Kings > Oh God of Destruction > Grant that we be your holy tools > Give to us the strength to slay men and beasts > Fill our hearts with wrath > And our hands with weapons > Let every action we take hasten the final battle > When you shall make the sky fall > And the sea boil > And all the demons shall be forced to face our righteous hosts > And be slain upon our weapons > That day cannot come too soon > Let us help you hasten its coming > Let it come in my day > Let my weapons drink the blood of a demon > Spend my blood and my life in their defeat > Let it come tomorrow! > Let it come tomorrow! > Let it come tomorrow! > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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I presume you mean a humm of one of th= e cultures.

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On Jun 3, 2012, at 9:35 = AM, Terry Sofian <tsofian@aol.com= > wrote:

I continue to work on the Hive, Queen and Country Universe. In this fi= ctional universe aliens have taught humans lojban. lojban is used on Venus.= I have absolutely no facility with language and can use as much assistance= as anyone would be willing provide. I have a list of terms below that I wo= uld like translated. I also have a few naming conventions as well. Finally = I have a "hymn" of one of the cultures. I will give full credit for transla= tion to anyone that assists me. Please feel free to respond off list. Thank= s!
 
Terry Sofian
 
 
How would the following be rendered in lojban?
 
Beyond the Clouds
 
Hosts
Priest
Warrior
Weapon Maker
Seafarer
Ship Builder
Craftsman
Farmer
Servant
Slave
Unholy
 
Family Names are based on a characteristic tool or practice of the cas= te. Birth Names is based on sex and birth order.
An English translation of the lojban would be Warrior: Bright Spears: = Second Son: Slays Merchant. He would be called Slays Merchant in normal con= versation between equals or by someone above him in caste.
In the most formal setting the triumphs of this person would include "= Taker of the Great Northern Convoy, Robber of Many Merchants, First upon th= e Enemy's Deck and such like.
Cities are each dedicated to a Sea King deity. Think of this as callin= g a city after a Christian Saint, such as St Louis, or St Malo.
God of Destruction-Capital City
Goddess Mother of Warriors
Other Cities
Battle Lust
Lucky Ships
Death in Combat
Long Voyages
Stampeders of Foes
 
 
The Cities of the River Empire are named for the family that first set= tled it. Family names are based on occupations, such as Weaver, Farmer, Ban= nerman, Cook, Shepard, Slothherd, Birdwarden. The term for town, fortress o= r city is added as a prefix
Fortress Slothherd
City Riverman
Town Merchanter
 
 
Hymn of the Sea Kings
Oh God of Destruction
Grant that we be your holy tools
Give to us the strength to slay men and beasts
Fill our hearts with wrath
And our hands with weapons
Let every action we take hasten the final battle
When you shall make the sky fall
And the sea boil
And all the demons shall be forced to face our righteous hosts=
And be slain upon our weapons
That day cannot come too soon
Let us help you hasten its coming
Let it come in my day
Let my weapons drink the blood of a demon
Spend my blood and my life in their defeat
Let it come tomorrow!
Let it come tomorrow!
Let it come tomorrow!

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