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[76.96.107.72]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id ph6si13860703pbc.2.2012.06.03.20.44.29; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 20:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 76.96.107.72 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) client-ip=76.96.107.72; Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org ([173.13.139.236]) by omta02.potomac.co.businessclass.comcast.net with bizsmtp id J3kU1j00356Cr6M013kV1i; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 03:44:29 +0000 Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SbODU-0001xf-3B for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 20:44:28 -0700 Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 20:44:28 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] What is the x3 of tubnu? Message-ID: <20120604034427.GP8656@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20120603195142.GF8656@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 76.96.107.72 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / That's what would be *useful*, but in that case you'd just say "filled with x3", or perhaps "for being filled with x3". So many wording problems in the gismu list. -_- -Robin On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 07:54:29PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote: > Ah, yes. I must have glossed over the x2 bit. I thought it was something > else. In that case, I would suppose that the x3 is what is currently > occupying the hollow region of the tube, such as water in plumbing, similar > to the x2 of botpi. Further, I would guess that the reason for the > awkwardness of its phrasing is due to the uncommonness of the concept > attempting to be expressed in English. > > On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > I think it's missing a comma: "... hollow, of material x3". > > > > I disagree, since that makes x2=x3. > > > > I suspect it's intended to be a place that is never filled but allows > > you to describe what has been bored out as lo te tubnu, but this > > doesn't actually seem like an especially useful thing to have done so > > perhaps it is something subtler that I'm not seeing. > > > > - mi'e .kreig. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! 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