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On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 = at 4:14 PM, Terry Sofian <tsofian@aol.com> wrote:

Thank you all very much. As I mentioned I would be happy to specifical= ly thank people who have assisted, as well as mentioning this lit and other= lojban resources. If you would like to be mentioned please shoot me an ema= il off list with the name you would like me to use.

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Just a little background on some of the back story. Aliens arrive in t= he solar system and need servents due to the condition of their vessel. The= y "harvest" humans to work for them. The aliens are basically bio= logical computers. They teach humans lojban. At a point later in the time l= ine several groups of humans are abandonned. Their cultures evolve independ= ently, and some become very dark and cruel. They still speak and write in l= ojban, even though they have taken various turns in terms of cultural devel= opment.=A0The Sea Kings in particular=A0honor certain behaviours that other= cultures might find objectioable or worse. Slays Merchant is "one who= kills a merchant"

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A mononymous culture is would be very dificult to deal with, once it r= eached a size above a small city state. Instead of treating the name noi/po= i cluases can it be treated as a series of mononyms in which order is key t= o exact meaning? This would be similar to Republican=A0Period Latin where a= n individual had three names,=A0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman= _naming_conventions=A0" a name for an aristocratic male citizen co= mprised three parts (tria nomina): praenomen (given name), nomen (or nomen gentile or simply gentilic= ium, being the name of the gens or clan) and = cognomen (name of a family line within the gens)= . Sometimes a second or third cognomen, called agnomen, was added.
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Thanks again for all the help.

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Terry

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"John E. Clifford" <kali9putra@yahoo.com> Jun 03 01:46PM -0500 =A0

I presume you mean a humm of one of the cultures.
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Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> Jun 03= 09:29PM +0200 =A0

Let me try to offer a suggestion with what seems to be the easy part.
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Beyond the Clouds fe'eba'o lo dilnu (cannot be used as a name!)
la fe'eba'o dilnu (could be the proper name of a place)
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Hosts selvi'e (in the sense of hosting guests)
Priest jdaca'i
Warrior balsoi (in the sense of "Great fighter")
sonci (in the mere sense of solider/fighter)
Weapon Maker xa'izba
Seafarer xasli'u
Ship Builder blozba
Craftsman balzba (in the sense of "Great Maker")
Farmer cagypre
Servant selfu
Slave selbapse'u
Unholy nalcensa
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While others will offer suggestions for those, I'll try to think about<= br> your family names which sounds rather tricky to translate.
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remod
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P.S. with "Slays Merchant", you mean that the person is a killer = of merchants?
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"la .lindar." <lindarthebard@gmail.com<= /a>> Jun 03 07:36PM -0700 =A0

Lojban is really geared for mononyms.
You'd have to translate it using a bunch of noi/poi clauses.
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mi'e la .lindar. poi se laznu la .grinuud. gi'e pamoi gi'e zgif= i'i gi'e
nelci le smela ku'o ku mu'o

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Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> Jun 03= 11:21PM -0400 =A0

On Sunday 03 June 2012 22:36:11 la .lindar. wrote:
> You'd have to translate it using a bunch of noi/poi clauses.
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> mi'e la .lindar. poi se laznu la .grinuud. gi'e pamoi gi'e= zgifi'i gi'e
> nelci le smela ku'o ku mu'o
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"la .lindar.grinuud." is valid, as are "la .kot.divuar."= ;
and "la .misisipis.rirx.".
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mu'omi'e .pier.blojben.abat.
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