Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:37836) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sbk02-0007CA-4n; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 20:00:06 -0700 Received: by yhq56 with SMTP id 56sf4864938yhq.16 for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:59:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=1k7enBoZvhdl4RhxkJ+VL3oFVlKvSwm65MtRdXgc5i4=; b=HmceVbF2x1jGGvENJd6wllXLsMHvXBWIj8vlbZjy4eGGxlw57EjQSQD67GCEDXGBG+ BWtSa2kEGKziJJEv26g7v3Ztn0fQ/DMEXqWaQ90ngH6kTIkQ0QphhxaeZp48w05qDN4u NoLFXKbb1MtyVXGMwUfCJn9tKbn2C+burOW7g= Received: by 10.236.76.5 with SMTP id a5mr723317yhe.19.1338865195846; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:59:55 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.42.69 with SMTP id i45ls6370190yhb.3.gmail; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.39.7 with SMTP id r7mr6818333anj.9.1338865194948; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.39.7 with SMTP id r7mr6818332anj.9.1338865194934; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie (cpe-069-132-101-103.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.101.103]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id n15si82244anq.2.2012.06.04.19.59.54; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=69.132.101.103; Received: from ip6-localhost (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4402AB13 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 22:59:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] FAhA & BAI Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 22:59:51 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201206042259.52462.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Monday 04 June 2012 21:21:34 Jacob Errington wrote: > In that case, the thing faced is farna1, and not farna2? The definition is > quite misleading to me: > farna = x1 is the direction of x2 (object/event) from origin/in frame of > reference x3. > I'd say it means that there're two points, A and B, and the farna1 is the > direction from A to B, where A is farna3. Of course, that produces a very > weird farna1 that can't be filled by much. farna1 can be filled by "lo si'o berti" (not "lo berti", which is something which is north of something) or "lo julra'o be li cino" (leaving what the zero angle is to context). farna2 and farna3 are objects or events or locations; farna3 can also include the convention of the zero angle. "fa'a" is roughly "fi'o se farna", where by default mi te farna. I say roughly because it's not in BAI and therefore not exactly equivalent to a fi'o-phrase. Pierre -- sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.