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[205.188.169.203]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id y20si1095565vdd.0.2012.06.05.12.52.55; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 12:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of tsofian@aol.com designates 205.188.169.203 as permitted sender) client-ip=205.188.169.203; Received: from mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.9]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q55JqnoW022271 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 15:52:49 -0400 Received: from core-mte004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mte004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.236.77]) by mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7DE86E00008A for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 15:52:49 -0400 (EDT) References: <90e6ba21241bef6d9e04c1bd2389@google.com> To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Digest for lojban@googlegroups.com - 16 Messages in 7 Topics In-Reply-To: <90e6ba21241bef6d9e04c1bd2389@google.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Terry Sofian X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 36294-STANDARD Received: from 70.255.34.1 by webmail-m130.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.21) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 05 Jun 2012 15:52:49 -0400 Message-Id: <8CF116BEB828B18-9E8-438B@webmail-m130.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [70.255.34.1] Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 15:52:49 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:342444064:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29094fce639118db X-Original-Sender: tsofian@aol.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of tsofian@aol.com designates 205.188.169.203 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=tsofian@aol.com; dkim=pass header.i=@mx.aol.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF116BEB90D35E_9E8_11AF7_webmail-m130.sysops.aol.com" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF116BEB90D35E_9E8_11AF7_webmail-m130.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 MorphemeAddict Jun 04 08:19PM -0400 =20 If the aliens teach the humans Lojban, then are you just using Lojban as a (logical) alien language? This conflicts strongly with the real-world facts of Lojban. Or maybe the aliens are teaching the humans Lojban because the aliens understand Lojban qua Lojban more readily? =20 stevo The aliens call la selpurdi are themselves a construct of a high level alie= n culture the cev. The la selpurdi are biological robots programmed to find= worlds for their masters and terraform them so they will be habitable. la = selpurdi have a huge number of languages and communications methods, so if = they meet native species they will be able to communicate with them. One of= the modes of communication with which they are programmed is lojban. Since= the aliens are created creatures of pure logic they teach those they encou= nter languages that suit such a system. They also teach humans the logic to= go with it. Now the aliens have some differences in their logic system. In= stead of using yes/no gates they would use a four pathway gate Identical/Ho= mologous/analagous/Unrelated. 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If the aliens teach the humans Lojban, then are you just using Lojban as a<= br> (logical) alien language? This conflicts strongly with the real-world facts=
of Lojban. Or maybe the aliens are teaching the humans Lojban because the aliens understand Lojban qua Lojban more readily?
 
stevo


The aliens call la selpurdi are themselves a construct of a high level alie= n culture the cev. The la selpurdi are biological robots programm= ed to find worlds for their masters and terraform them so they will be habi= table. la selpurdi have a huge number of languages and communications metho= ds, so if they meet native species they will be able to communicate with th= em. One of the modes of communication with which they are programmed is loj= ban. Since the aliens are created creatures of pure logic they teach those = they encounter languages that suit such a system. They also teach huma= ns the logic to go with it. Now the aliens have some differences in their l= ogic system. Instead of using yes/no gates they would use a four pathway ga= te Identical/Homologous/analagous/Unrelated. There are other differences bu= t this is the largest and most obvious.
 
Terry

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