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Ummm!  Is this tetravalent gate truth functional.  That is, are compound ex=
pressions determined by the values for their components.  If so, how?  If n=
ot, how do the value function, in general as well as in concrete cases?  Th=
e value names seem not particularly related to truth; is there another fact=
or involved here and where does truth per se or in some fuzzy sense come in=
?


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 From: Terry Sofian <tsofian@aol.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [lojban] Digest for lojban@googlegroups.com - 16 Messages in 7=
 Topics
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MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> Jun 04 08:19PM -0400 =A0
>
>If the aliens teach the humans Lojban, then are you just using Lojban as a
>(logical) alien language? This conflicts strongly with the real-world fact=
s
>of Lojban. Or maybe the aliens are teaching the humans Lojban because the
>aliens understand Lojban qua Lojban more readily?
>=A0
>stevo
>


The aliens call la selpurdi are themselves a construct of a high level alie=
n culture the cev.=A0The la selpurdi=A0are biological robots programmed to =
find worlds for their masters and terraform them so they will be habitable.=
 la selpurdi have a huge number of languages and communications methods, so=
 if they meet native species they will be able to communicate with them. On=
e of the modes of communication with which they are programmed is lojban. S=
ince the aliens are created creatures of pure logic they teach those they e=
ncounter languages that suit such a system. They also=A0teach humans the lo=
gic to go with it. Now the aliens have some differences in their logic syst=
em. Instead of using yes/no gates they would use a four pathway gate Identi=
cal/Homologous/analagous/Unrelated. There are other differences but this is=
 the largest and most obvious.
=A0
Terry=20
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Ummm!&nbsp;&nbsp;Is this tetravalent gate truth functional.&nbsp;&nbsp;That=
 is, are compound expressions determined by the values for their components=
.&nbsp;&nbsp;If so, how?&nbsp;&nbsp;If not, how do the value function, in g=
eneral as well as in concrete cases?&nbsp;&nbsp;The value names seem not pa=
rticularly related to truth; is there another factor involved here and wher=
e does truth per se or in some fuzzy sense come in?<br>  <div style=3D"font=
-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div s=
tyle=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12=
pt;"> <div  dir=3D"ltr" > <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <hr size=3D"1"> =
 <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Terry Sofian &lt;tso=
fian@aol.com&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> l=
ojban@googlegroups.com <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</sp=
an></b> Tuesday, June 5, 2012 2:52 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:
 bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [lojban] Digest for lojban@googlegroups.com=
 - 16 Messages in 7 Topics<br> </font> </div> <br>
<div id=3Dyiv1744245425><font color=3D'black' size=3D'2' face=3D'arial'><br=
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<div style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:arial, helvetica;COLOR:black;FONT-SIZE:10pt;">
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:blue 2px solid;PADDING-LEFT:3px;"><span st=
yle=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">MorphemeAddict &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D=
"mailto:lytlesw@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:lytlesw@gmail.c=
om">lytlesw@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> Jun 04 08:19PM -0400 &nbsp;<br>
<br>
If the aliens teach the humans Lojban, then are you just using Lojban as a<=
br>
(logical) alien language? This conflicts strongly with the real-world facts=
<br>
of Lojban. Or maybe the aliens are teaching the humans Lojban because the<b=
r>
aliens understand Lojban qua Lojban more readily?<br>
&nbsp;<br>
stevo<br>
</blockquote></div>


<div><br>
<br>
The aliens call la selpurdi are themselves a construct of a high level alie=
n culture the cev.&nbsp;The la selpurdi&nbsp;are biological robots programm=
ed to find worlds for their masters and terraform them so they will be habi=
table. la selpurdi have a huge number of languages and communications metho=
ds, so if they meet native species they will be able to communicate with th=
em. One of the modes of communication with which they are programmed is loj=
ban. Since the aliens are created creatures of pure logic they teach those =
they encounter languages that suit such a system. They also&nbsp;teach huma=
ns the logic to go with it. Now the aliens have some differences in their l=
ogic system. Instead of using yes/no gates they would use a four pathway ga=
te Identical/Homologous/analagous/Unrelated. There are other differences bu=
t this is the largest and most obvious.</div>


<div>&nbsp;</div>


<div>Terry</div>
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