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Speaking from experience with Wikipedia, not specifically the
lojban.org wiki:

Wikipedia is conservative about blocking ip addresses, even
when they have a demonstrated outburst of spam/vandalism.

That community has created a large number of tools to revert
and cleanup problems, and defaults to soft-security.  Including
the sometimes ridiculous of giving a stern warning on the talk
page of an IP address in the process of vandalism.

Wikipedia likely has a greater need for a 'default-open' policy
than lojban.org, but I do think the ban-hammer should be a last
resort, with prevention and development of better cleanup tools
our higher priority.

The tension being of course: how much spam are you willing to
prevent if it turns away a legitimate users?  I mentioned the
Where Are Your Keys? wiki already, and I went to default-closed
there: you gotta e-mail me for an account, and that doesn't affect
the 3 people that are 99% of the edits there.

-Alan

On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 08:27:53AM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> On Friday 08 June 2012 04:53:46 Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> > 2.  Use the banning interface at
> > http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-admin_banning.php to ban the
> > usernames and, if consistent, the IPs.
> 
> The IP address is 218.86.50.234, but it's in a netblock 218.85.0.0 - 
> 218.86.127.255. It's in Fujian, China. Reverse DNS doesn't give anything, so 
> I don't know if it's a static address. Should we ban the whole netblock?
> 
> Pierre
> -- 
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