Received: from mail-pb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]:57841) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sd2f2-0002RU-L1; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:07:58 -0700 Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2sf1899395pbb.16 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:07:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :sender:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; bh=odhm0iV/dTygMhHdhPFSnGFwoQPlxzOC+1krTGIk9y0=; b=f8M9M+LJe4uiYn8H05+0Sxkb05ww4EAlx2pGgRLFXf9r+57gA5ItP3udgSj1/8l23C xte6rjzCk97ORs8yZ1N8ouK98C/CFZ+sw27ZEuSv9LgeYyRl8PWd8VEVvfBRLE/EVsTh eXTjlIKkM/iVjTzTviNLQQ40WgMKxMcA2WYqc= Received: by 10.68.194.230 with SMTP id hz6mr1204675pbc.4.1339175258841; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:07:38 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.195.100 with SMTP id id4ls5779895pbc.8.gmail; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.191.225 with SMTP id hb1mr6943121pbc.5.1339175258386; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.191.225 with SMTP id hb1mr6943118pbc.5.1339175258363; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ph6si6169448pbc.2.2012.06.08.10.07.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from nobody by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sd2ev-0002RN-6K for lojban@googlegroups.com; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:07:37 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sd2eu-0002RE-6P; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:07:36 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 10:07:36 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com, lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: Re: [lojban] Helping with spam on lojban.org (cizyprijev , najrut, please read) Message-ID: <20120608170735.GX24040@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com, lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20120607172601.GX24040@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20120608085346.GO24040@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <201206080827.55352.phma@phma.optus.nu> <20120608141538.GP9665@sunflowerriver.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20120608141538.GP9665@sunflowerriver.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 08:15:14AM -0600, .alyn.post. wrote: > > Wikipedia likely has a greater need for a 'default-open' policy > than lojban.org, but I do think the ban-hammer should be a last > resort, with prevention and development of better cleanup tools > our higher priority. Fantastic. When do you start? :D Generally speaking, I'm much more interested in banning users than IPs, but when multiple spam users come from the same IP... Banning blocks seems a bad plan, though. -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni li'u -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.