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[173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id tf10si6296675pbc.0.2012.06.08.10.46.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sd3Gq-0002kO-UK for lojban@googlegroups.com; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:46:49 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 10:46:48 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Helping with spam on lojban.org (cizyprijev , najrut, please read) Message-ID: <20120608174648.GY24040@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20120607172601.GX24040@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20120608085346.GO24040@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <201206080827.55352.phma@phma.optus.nu> <20120608141538.GP9665@sunflowerriver.org> <20120608170735.GX24040@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20120608174337.GQ9665@sunflowerriver.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20120608174337.GQ9665@sunflowerriver.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 11:43:14AM -0600, .alyn.post. wrote: > On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 10:07:36AM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 08:15:14AM -0600, .alyn.post. wrote: > > > > > > Wikipedia likely has a greater need for a 'default-open' > > > policy than lojban.org, but I do think the ban-hammer should > > > be a last resort, with prevention and development of better > > > cleanup tools our higher priority. > > > > Fantastic. When do you start? :D > > > > When you start running real wiki software, of course. > > I apologize for my overly broad language above. I know this > community suffers from having too many cooks. I know what works > for my energy level and time availability, and that's whitelisting > accounts. As that defines *where* I participate as much as how I > do, lojban.org may be too large for me to be useful. It was > presumptuous of me to assume my experience was prescriptive. It wasn't a big deal, or even really intended to be a criticism, hence the smiley. But people shouldn't be expecting *me* to spend significant time on the wiki in any aspect, including migrating it. -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni li'u -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.