Received: from mail-bk0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:57603) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SeXOs-0007sN-Ll; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:09:23 -0700 Received: by bkcik5 with SMTP id ik5sf3222716bkc.16 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:09:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=rJztemZKM6alanjYa7pyjGXsZAUXqRwenjMqpyoKbAg=; b=nEc/MkJSTqQA12W+PZ12wi0HzumubzVo6a4+x+Prr9BicDjf84k1iLopm/pKW6maok nnhFbjWcHH6aGFBzbobM5x7LahF0vLlk54aQCHQQ6UaR116Da95rtPUNuSpvTyjV4k1F 38N1lZ9PcE673NAorCKPkYS3UkRNTr7XD7JWk= Received: by 10.204.152.3 with SMTP id e3mr1439247bkw.31.1339531747077; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:09:07 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.154.7 with SMTP id m7ls6460197bkw.5.gmail; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.149.210 with SMTP id u18mr4164430bkv.1.1339531745026; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.149.210 with SMTP id u18mr4164429bkv.1.1339531745002; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bk0-f48.google.com (mail-bk0-f48.google.com [209.85.214.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ig3si284861bkc.3.2012.06.12.13.09.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.48 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.48; Received: by mail-bk0-f48.google.com with SMTP id jf20so6294127bkc.7 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:09:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.117.3 with SMTP id fk3mr12639368bkc.136.1339531744773; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.125.5 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:09:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20120603195142.GF8656@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20120604034427.GP8656@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:09:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] What is the x3 of tubnu? From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747553ed0077104c24c096d X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --00151747553ed0077104c24c096d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I had actually asked that question on the list back on 2/22/08: > preti > .i ma tertu'u to te tubnu toi > .i ri du da poi ca'a nenri lo tubnu gi'i pu se vimcu fi lo tubnu Both xorxes and selckiku agreed at the time the asnwer was "gi'u" --gejyspa On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > Agreed. > > > On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Robin Lee Powell < > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > >> That's what would be *useful*, but in that case you'd just say >> "filled with x3", or perhaps "for being filled with x3". >> >> So many wording problems in the gismu list. -_- >> >> -Robin >> >> On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 07:54:29PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote: >> > Ah, yes. I must have glossed over the x2 bit. I thought it was something >> > else. In that case, I would suppose that the x3 is what is currently >> > occupying the hollow region of the tube, such as water in plumbing, >> similar >> > to the x2 of botpi. Further, I would guess that the reason for the >> > awkwardness of its phrasing is due to the uncommonness of the concept >> > attempting to be expressed in English. >> > >> > On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Craig Daniel >> wrote: >> > >> > > On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Jonathan Jones >> wrote: >> > > > I think it's missing a comma: "... hollow, of material x3". >> > > >> > > I disagree, since that makes x2=x3. >> > > >> > > I suspect it's intended to be a place that is never filled but allows >> > > you to describe what has been bored out as lo te tubnu, but this >> > > doesn't actually seem like an especially useful thing to have done so >> > > perhaps it is something subtler that I'm not seeing. >> > > >> > > - mi'e .kreig. >> > > >> > > -- >> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> > > "lojban" group. >> > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> > > For more options, visit this group at >> > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> > >> > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >> > (Come to the Dot Side! 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=A0 I had actually asked that question on the list back on= 2/22/08:
pre= ti
.i ma tertu'u to te=A0tubnu=A0toi
.i ri du da poi ca'a nenri lo=A0tubnu=A0gi'i pu se vimcu fi lo=A0tubnu
=A0
=A0Both xorxes and selckiku agreed at the time the asnwe= r was "gi'u"
=A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa
=A0
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Jonathan Jo= nes <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed.


On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at = 9:44 PM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
That's what would be *useful*, but in th= at case you'd just say
"filled with x3", or perhaps "for being filled with x3"= .

So many wording problems in the gismu list. =A0-_-

-Robin

On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 07:54:29PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> Ah, yes. I must have glossed over the x2 bit. I thought it was somethi= ng
> else. In that case, I would suppose that the x3 is what is currently > occupying the hollow region of the tube, such as water in plumbing, si= milar
> to the x2 of botpi. Further, I would guess that the reason for the
> awkwardness of its phrasing is due to the uncommonness of the concept<= br> > attempting to be expressed in English.
>
> On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Craig Daniel <craigbdaniel@gmail.com> wrote= :
>
> > On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I think it's missing a comma: "... hollow, of mater= ial x3".
> >
> > I disagree, since that makes x2=3Dx3.
> >
> > I suspect it's intended to be a place that is never filled bu= t allows
> > you to describe what has been bored out as lo te tubnu, but this<= br> > > doesn't actually seem like an especially useful thing to have= done so
> > perhaps it is something subtler that I'm not seeing.
> >
> > =A0- mi'e .kreig.
> >
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> >
>
>
> --
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>
> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo= 'o
> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>
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