Received: from mail-gg0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]:60161) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SeuNn-0002IO-Th; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:41:44 -0700 Received: by ggke5 with SMTP id e5sf897599ggk.16 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:41:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3jHawnmm+xV7qBeT9392WsaFV7JV8KxqtJq3h1QI4Fs=; b=uGSvvHFA46mtic3g46f5IAKpXIAex/Goak7LsDjGK3ktjGBUONWFZPfXUcZr4wJDIJ 7fgvSsuen+5NfXY9KXSiLpCXe+Ue4u6WhNoHLdkRHb/OvRj5K7axiXmJfXtzGHVkuR69 pieqYKHCRbHs0x6ilV/e3g1+8uRsaI7HbH+Vk= Received: by 10.52.70.97 with SMTP id l1mr303999vdu.15.1339620093339; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:41:33 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.149.145 with SMTP id t17ls3348013vcv.9.gmail; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:41:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.70.97 with SMTP id l1mr303998vdu.15.1339620092769; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:41:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:41:32 -0700 (PDT) From: djandus To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <4a4842d3-9a04-452b-b49c-4462823bae96@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <4FD87812.1080006@lojban.org> References: <20120603195142.GF8656@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20120604034427.GP8656@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <4FD87812.1080006@lojban.org> Subject: Re: [lojban] What is the x3 of tubnu? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: jandew@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jandew@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jandew@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1775_3574210.1339620092100" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_1775_3574210.1339620092100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:22:58 AM UTC-5, lojbab wrote: > > I was trying to word it to obtain a more generalized concept - one that > would allow us to consider an insulated wire to be a tube or insulation > with a copper (or other conductor) as the filling (or alternatively, the > electric current might be considered the "filling", though this is > stretching the concept). > I kind of like this idea -- and I can see how it applies to the current definition, unedited. (That is, "hollow" can be a noun referring to the hollow space itself.) The definition should definitely be reworded, though. How about: x1 is a length of tubing/pipe/hollow cylinder [shape/form] of outer material x2, of inner material x3. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/-OCypQmGyX4J. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_1775_3574210.1339620092100 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:22:58 AM UTC-5, lojbab wrote:
I was trying to word it to obtain a more gener= alized concept - one that=20
would allow us to consider an insulated wire to be a tube or insulation= =20
with a copper (or other conductor) as the filling (or alternatively, th= e=20
electric current might be considered the "filling", though this is=20
stretching the concept).

I kind of = like this idea -- and I can see how it applies to the current definition, u= nedited. (That is, "hollow" can be a noun referring to the hollow space its= elf.) The definition should definitely be reworded, though. How about:

x1 is a length of tubing/pipe/hollow cylinder [shape/f= orm] of outer material x2, of inner material x3. 

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