Received: from mail-gh0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]:61646) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SfaiY-0003yc-Qm; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:54:05 -0700 Received: by ghbf16 with SMTP id f16sf2738286ghb.16 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:53:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=ui33ViWEVCkK7+SQza+7+WuZK8roStMQtbJpv+28+ic=; b=6e90u2M7LIfn8BWln4MrsDuliW3yC8IwYmg7QJvrZK4SPIPv862fgD4LQm/voOAfHJ 04hi147OWoF2jZrKTUf9lg/sN8GaCRWRB/Oueglqm2Vo6rabpW34E/GLtvDIkV2qbTTH XvTh69TIFDQ2nMDArkLaXTfCJN1aroXM3M7TI= Received: by 10.236.185.167 with SMTP id u27mr137581yhm.4.1339782824916; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:53:44 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.213.26 with SMTP id p26ls568208anq.1.gmail; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.191.40 with SMTP id f28mr11627901yhn.2.1339782823590; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.191.40 with SMTP id f28mr11627900yhn.2.1339782823579; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gh0-f182.google.com (mail-gh0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q4si2824171ano.0.2012.06.15.10.53.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gusni.kantu@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.182 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.182; Received: by mail-gh0-f182.google.com with SMTP id z22so3751071ghb.27 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.154.199 with SMTP id r7mr275518icw.55.1339782823363; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:53:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.217.227 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:53:23 -0700 (PDT) From: guskant Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 02:53:23 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] definition of si'e To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gusni.kantu@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gusni.kantu@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.182 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gusni.kantu@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / The definition of si'e is inconsistent with its usage. According to the Complete Lojban Language Chapter 18 (and also to jbovlaste), si'e is defined as: x1 is an (n)th portion of mass x2. The example shows however that si'e itself does not imply fi'u (an (n)th): 11.8) levi sanmi cu fi'ucisi'e lei mi djedi cidja This-here meal is-a-slash-three-portion-of my day-food. This meal is one-third of my daily food. Guessing from the example, the definition of si'e must be: x1 is n times portion of mass x2. n is a positive real number or 0, or may be simply a real number. I can't imagine the case that n is a complex number, but it might be mathematically possible. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.