Received: from mail-ob0-f189.google.com ([209.85.214.189]:53966) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SfdTw-0005Pp-5W; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:51:02 -0700 Received: by obbtb18 with SMTP id tb18sf3250865obb.16 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:50:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=DAQOgJtYM/E0+jBPpj/NrCcx7rIZHZx3UXQYO9pdSSo=; b=qkTgX8lJvyhZoxE9c9m77f5L2gnh1JJA1kFeWlmrX4vOmS/edSgtBGl9auFWx/xDMI ySPGapHM6o1riuVUOc62o2P4ut3+s6ds5Qi/rhJG8DFHqi7lvTre8+67MjcdxBbxHkJu 2ybpY5ZLV23wAF4ONX9NHBbPe4phyr+bVRR7A= Received: by 10.236.37.129 with SMTP id y1mr192406yha.9.1339793453688; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:50:53 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.42.69 with SMTP id i45ls3882453yhb.3.gmail; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.73.131 with SMTP id v3mr11914855yhd.6.1339793453138; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.73.131 with SMTP id v3mr11914853yhd.6.1339793453123; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie (cpe-069-132-101-103.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.101.103]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id d5si6912776yhj.7.2012.06.15.13.50.53; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=69.132.101.103; Received: from ip6-localhost (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7658D2AB52 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:50:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] definition of si'e Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:50:47 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201206151650.50392.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Friday 15 June 2012 13:53:23 guskant wrote: > The definition of si'e is inconsistent with its usage. According to > the Complete Lojban Language Chapter 18 (and also to jbovlaste), si'e > is defined as: > x1 is an (n)th portion of mass x2. > The example shows however that si'e itself does not imply fi'u (an (n)th): > 11.8) levi sanmi cu fi'ucisi'e lei mi djedi cidja > This-here meal is-a-slash-three-portion-of my day-food. > This meal is one-third of my daily food. > Guessing from the example, the definition of si'e must be: > x1 is n times portion of mass x2. > n is a positive real number or 0, or may be simply a real number. I > can't imagine the case that n is a complex number, but it might be > mathematically possible. Sounds good to me. You may want to add a note that, normally, n is 0 ga'obi'iga'o 1. Pierre -- ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.