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    What you are seeing here is an artifact of English.  "nth" here is used
not in the ordinal sense (first, second, third, etc.), but in the sense of
a fraction (think of three fifTHS, eleven twelfTHs, etc.)

                        --gejyspa


On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

> On Friday 15 June 2012 13:53:23 guskant wrote:
> > The definition of si'e is inconsistent with its usage. According to
> > the Complete Lojban Language Chapter 18 (and also to jbovlaste), si'e
> > is defined as:
> >    x1 is an (n)th portion of mass x2.
> > The example shows however that si'e itself does not imply fi'u (an
> (n)th):
> >    11.8)    levi sanmi cu fi'ucisi'e lei mi djedi cidja
> >        This-here meal is-a-slash-three-portion-of my day-food.
> >        This meal is one-third of my daily food.
> > Guessing from the example, the definition of si'e must be:
> >    x1 is n times portion of mass x2.
> > n is a positive real number or 0, or may be simply a real number. I
> > can't imagine the case that n is a complex number, but it might be
> > mathematically possible.
>
> Sounds good to me. You may want to add a note that, normally, n is 0
> ga'obi'iga'o 1.
>
> Pierre
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">=A0 =A0 What you are seeing here is an artifact of English=
. =A0&quot;nth&quot; here is used not in the=A0ordinal=A0sense (first, seco=
nd, third, etc.), but in the sense of a fraction (think of three fifTHS, el=
even twelfTHs, etc.)<div>
<br></div><div>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa</d=
iv><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:50 PM,=
 Pierre Abbat <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phma@phma.optus.nu" t=
arget=3D"_blank">phma@phma.optus.nu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">On Friday 15 June 2012 13:=
53:23 guskant wrote:<br>
&gt; The definition of si&#39;e is inconsistent with its usage. According t=
o<br>
&gt; the Complete Lojban Language Chapter 18 (and also to jbovlaste), si&#3=
9;e<br>
&gt; is defined as:<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0x1 is an (n)th portion of mass x2.<br>
&gt; The example shows however that si&#39;e itself does not imply fi&#39;u=
 (an (n)th):<br>
&gt; =A0 =A011.8) =A0 =A0levi sanmi cu fi&#39;ucisi&#39;e lei mi djedi cidj=
a<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0This-here meal is-a-slash-three-portion-of my day-food.=
<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0This meal is one-third of my daily food.<br>
&gt; Guessing from the example, the definition of si&#39;e must be:<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0x1 is n times portion of mass x2.<br>
&gt; n is a positive real number or 0, or may be simply a real number. I<br=
>
&gt; can&#39;t imagine the case that n is a complex number, but it might be=
<br>
&gt; mathematically possible.<br>
<br>
</div>Sounds good to me. You may want to add a note that, normally, n is 0<=
br>
ga&#39;obi&#39;iga&#39;o 1.<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Pierre<br>
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